Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Sagan In Stars & Stripes 11-26-92 - Knowles Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:29:17 -0500 From: UFO UpDates - Toronto To: "- UFO - UpDates Subscribers -":; From: Patrick D. Knowles To:ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net, Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:03:54 -0800 Subject: Re: Sagan In Stars & Stripes 11-26-92 [Non-Subscriber Post] >From: UFO UpDates - Toronto >To: <- UFO-UpDates Subscribers -> >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:20:06 -0500 >Subject: UFO UpDate: Sagan In Stars & Stripes 11-26-92 >Date: 01-04-95 (03:18) >To: ALL >From: Steven Vincent Johnson >Subj: Carl Sagan - Stars and Stripes Newspaper article, Nov. 26, 1 >Read: (N/A) >Conf: U-AltParaUFO >Subject: Carl Sagan - Stars and Stripes Newspaper article, Nov. 26, 1962 >Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:05:00 UNDEFINED >Organization: University of Wisconsin >Carl Sagan Speech >An Associated Press (AP) article in the Stars and Stripes, A >U.S. military newspaper >Date: Monday, November 26, 1962 Wow! In a presentation given in Berkeley in March of 2002, Steven Greer claimed to have inside knowledge that Sagan had been given a position on the board of a secret MJ-12 style group, and that this was what brought about his reversal. This might be old news to many, but around this same time an article appeared in the New York Times quoting former Director of Central Intelligence, Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter as saying: "It is time for the truth to be brought out in open Congressional hearings... behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFO's. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that the unknown flying objects are non-sense... to hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel." --New York Times, Sunday February 28, 1960, p. 30. The last part of Hillenkoetter's statement comes at the very end of the article. I've found this article to be extremely helpful in convincing people to take this whole subject seriously. Hillenkoetter had been an active member of Keyhoe's NICAP, and had sent a letter to Congress about the possible danger of UFO misidentifications leading to a nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR. But he, too, was somehow persuaded to keep quiet. Just when he was about to serve as the lynchpin of NICAP's effort to get open Congressional hearings, he suddenly cut off all contact with Keyhoe and went totally silent on the matter. Keyhoe himself talks about this in detail in Aliens From Space (Doubleday, 1973). You can get the NYT article from any public library - through the interlibrary loans department, if necessary. Here's a simple but powerful thing you can do. This strategy may seem a bit zany to some, but such guerilla info tactics have been quite effective in my neck of the woods: Make copies of the article, being certain to include the date and page number at the top. Underline the Hillenkoetter (or Sagan, or whomever) quotes in red ink. Then, on the sly, slide those copies under the doors or into the boxes of professors, teachers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, clergy, politicians..... Below, are similarly powerful quotes from other highly credible, very widely respected sources, all properly cited so that people can check the quotes for themselves. Print, copy, and distribute it on the sly in the way just described! It's especially powerful if you staple on the NYT article with the Hillenkoetter quotes as a second page. You can get together with a group of friends and effectively canvass all the colleges in your local area by this method. It's inexpensive and it works! ----- Apollo 10, 14, & 16 Astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, Ph.D. (Aeronautics, MIT): "Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. And there is some group of people somewhere that may or may not be associated with government at this point, but certainly were at one time, that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge or not permit it to be widely disseminated. The question of, 'has it been kept secret, or how could it be kept secret?' It hasn't been kept secret. It's been there all along. But it has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn't come out. Well, Dr. Greer did indeed mount an initiative and did go to Washington, did speak with high level government people, did present some of the witnesses that we've talked about here, to give briefings. He has asked for Congressional hearings on these matters. I attended and helped him with that. And I believe it is a very important effort that we get Congressional oversight of all this. But so far that hasn't happened. We briefed certain members of Congress, some of their staff, some of the people from the White House. We talked with people in the Pentagon. And in general, it was well received and some were quite amazed at what they heard." --Videotaped Interview. Transcribed in Steven M. Greer, M.D., ed., Disclosure (Crozet, VA: Crossing Point Inc., 2001), pp. 61- 64. Book and video available at www.disclosureproject.org . See also Edgar Mitchell & Dwight Williams, The Way of the Explorer (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1996), p. 212. ----- FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations (ret.), John Callahan: "This particular incident started with a phone call from the people in Alaska. I said, 'What's the problem?' He said, 'Well, it's that UFO.'. The UFO was bouncing around the 747 here. They brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA, and three people from Reagan's Scientific Study team - I don't know who the rest of the people were but they were all excited. Well, I've been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff I was behind the group that was there. And when they were speaking to the people in the room, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened. It still bothers me that I've seen all this, I know all this, and I'm walking around with the answer, and nobody wants to ask the question to get the answer. ...For those people that say that if these UFOs existed, they would some day be on radar and that there'd be professionals who would see it, then I can tell them that back in 1986 there were enough professional people that saw it. . What I can tell you is what I've seen with my own eyes. I've got a videotape. I've got the voice tape. And I've got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I've been telling you." --Video Interview. Op. cit., pp. 79-85. ----- Chief of Defense Staff, British Ministry of Defense (ret.), Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: "I have frequently been asked why a person of my background-a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee - why I think there is a cover-up, or what the reasons may be for government's wishing to cover up the facts about UFOs. A number of explanations have often been put forward. The most frequent, and perhaps the most plausible, is the government's concern (which is primarily that of the United States, and that of my own country) over the public's reaction if they were told the truth-which is that there are objects in our atmosphere which are technically miles in advance of anything that we can deploy, that we have no means of stopping them coming here, and that we have no de-fense against them, should they be hostile. I believe governments fear that if they did disclose those facts, people would panic. I don't believe that at all. I've said so in print. I do not believe that people today, in the 21st century, are going to panic at that sort of information. . . . What I'd like to say is that there is a serious possibility that we are being visited- and have been visited for many years - by people from outer space, from other civilizations; that it behooves us to find out who they are, where they come from, and what they want. This should be the subject of rigorous scientific investigation, and not the subject of rubbishing by tabloid newspapers." --Video Interview. Op. cit., pp. 305-307. See also Lord Hill- Norton, Forward to Timothy Good's Above Top Secret (New York: William Morrow & Co., 1988), pp. 7-10. ----- Mercury & Gemini Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper (ret.): "At Edwards Air Force Base I was having some of the cameramen film precision landings and we were right on the edge of a dry lake. A saucer flew right over them, put down three landing gears, and landed out on the dry lakebed. They went out there with their cameras towards the UFO. By the time they got back with the developed film I had higher and higher level officers talking to me. I had a chance to hold it [the film] up to the window to look at it. It was certainly good film. Good close-up shots. Nothing like I had ever seen. [A] double inverted saucer shape. Well, at the time this happened I was involved in research and development and doing very classified projects at the task center. I knew we didn't have any vehicles [like that] at that time. I am 99.9% sure that the Russians didn't have any of that type either. there was no doubt in my mind that it was made someplace other than on this earth. In my opinion they were worried it would panic the public if they knew that someone had vehicles that had this kind of performance way back right after WWII. So they started telling lies about it. Then I think they had to cover it with another lie... now they don't know how to get out of it. Who was flying these vehicles we saw? I think there were extraterrestrial pilots flying them, no doubt about it." --Video Interview. Op. cit., pp. 225-229. See also Gordon Cooper & Bruce Henderson, Leap of Faith: An Astronaut's Journey into the Unknown (New York: Harper Collins Publishers, 2000), pp. 80- 91, 194-200. ----- Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin, Army National Guard Reserve: "One afternoon when we were just about ready to finish up training, Colonel Holomon brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic debris. We were told that this object came from matters connected with Operation Bluebook. He went on to further explain that this was the material that had come from a New Mexico crash in 1947 of an extraterrestrial craft and that was discussed at length. I got an opportunity to travel a little bit with the President [Eisenhower]. Well, on some of those occasions he had just been given messages or had been given information pertaining to sightings or information about UFOs, and I know that for a fact because I was in the COM Center and I saw that information... and what made them go. But what happened was that Eisenhower got sold out. He realized that he was losing control of the UFO subject. He realized that the phenomenon or whatever it was that we were faced with was not going to be in the best hands. As far as I can remember, that was the expression that was used, 'It was not going to be in the best hands.' That was a real concern. And so it has turned out to be. It had been discussed with me on numerous occasions what could happen to me militarily if I discussed this." --Video Interview. Op. cit., pp. 230-237. ----- Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer (ret.), Don Phillips: "These UFOs were huge. And they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, after stopping. And then immediately reverse this action. When I was working with the Skunkworks, we signed an agreement with the National Security Agency, and the National Security Council, as well as the CIA. And, we kept very quiet about things because they always knew where we were and what we were doing. I automatically had that team spirit. We were a big family there. And I was very proud of that, having worked directly for Kelly Johnson. >From what I learned over a period of years, anti-gravitational research was going. We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico. And, yeah, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work." --Video Interview. Op. cit., pp. 375- 383. ----- Former Director of Central Intelligence, Vice Admiral R.H. Hillenkoetter: "It is time for the truth to be brought out in open Congressional hearings. Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are lead to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel." --The New York Times, Sunday, February 28, 1960: "Air Force Order on 'Saucers' Cited," p. L30. See also Steven Greer, M.D., Disclosure, p. 58; www.disclosureproject.org Best regards, Patrick \_______________________________________________/ UFO UpDates - Toronto - ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net A UFO & Related Phenomena E-Mail List operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp UFO UpDates Archives are available at The Virtually Strange Network: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/ To unsubscribe send a message to this address with 'Unsubscribe' in the Subject: line Sign the International Petition for UFO Information Disclosure http://www.virtuallystrange.net/petition Listen to 'Strange Days... 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