Dogmatic Math A mathematician might say "The universe is composed of things that are "red" or "not-red" - and, satisfied that his `logic' was unassailable, go on to make deep metaphysical calculations. A (true) skeptic might then say "There are millions of possible shades of red. Where is the exact boundary between red and brown, or, is this the last shade of red or the first shade of purple?" Mathematics cannot `define' the Universe and is not even very good at counting things - except for (apparently) obvious things. Like Einstein said: "When mathematics tries to talk about reality - it's inaccurate, when mathematics is accurate - it's not talking about reality" and "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." -------------------------------------------- Reference file http://www.perceptions.couk.com/blinded.html#16 http://www.perceptions.couk.com/bigthorts.txt http://www.perceptions.couk.com/gody.txt -------------------------------------------- FURTHER REFERENCES GO - "search perceptions" - in SEARCH-ENGINE file-ID www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/dogmath.txt