Quotes from Sir James Jeans (a `good' scientist) "If we begin by knowing nothing, and perform no new experiments, we shall continue to know nothing throughout all time" "We can still only see the rainbow, but a sun of some sort must exist to produce the light by which we see it" "As our vague and uncertain knowledge seems to suggest, we may be tempted to conjecture that our minds are in contact with reality through other than purely physical means" -------------- "Photons, electrons and protons have become about as meaningless to the physicist as `x, y z' are to the child on its first day of learning algebra. The most we hope for at the moment is to discover ways of manipulating `x, y z' without knowing what they are, with the result that the advance of knowledge is at present reduced to what Einstein has described as extracting one incomprehensible from another incomprehensible." p 68 "The New Background of Science" 1945 --------------------------------------------------------------- See "Blind Science" in search engine and maybe check http://www.perceptions.couk.com/subindex.html#jeans --------------------------------------------------------------- FURTHER REFERENCES GO - "search perceptions" - in SEARCH-ENGINE file-ID www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/denim.txt