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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:00:34 +0100
Subject: "90,000 Secret CIA Files on Telepathy, Clairvoyance"


"90,000 Secret CIA Files on Telepathy, Clairvoyance"

Interesting, if only for a coincidence:  Last night was reading a further few chapters of Rupert Sheldrake's "The Science Delusion" where he gets around to checking the actual facts re: telepathy, clairvoyance, premonitions, presentiments etc.


[He presents some interesting details on China's modern use of citizens and their animals, pets etc., in earthquake prone areas, to give advance warnings of quakes by observing animal behaviour - saving thousands of lives by early evacuations of cities etc.  And he noted that frogs being observed in Italy (for a PhD project) suddenly stopped all activities six days before a big quake and only resumed 2 days after its last aftershocks.  I.e. a c. ten day cessation of normal activities.]

It turns out that the western taboo on these subjects is covering up a stack of studies showing statistically significant evidence for telepathy, clairvoyance, premonitions, presentiments etc.

Sheldrake also notes that Russia and China are not afraid to investigate these subjects and have been doing so for years.

Cheers
Ray D


http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/90000-Secret-CIA-Files-on-Telepathy-Clairvoyance-and-MK-ULTRA-Public.html
Saturday, July 16, 2016
90,000 Secret CIA Files on Telepathy, Clairvoyance and MK-ULTRA Public

Tens of thousands of secret CIA files were made public after years of wrangling. These include more than 12,000 documents about the Stargate program, a research into remote viewing, which the intelligence service secretly conducted.

In the early seventies, the CIA supported a program to examine a form of extrasensory perception called remote viewing utility could be useful for intelligence gathering.

US military intelligence service DIA labeled this program the Stargate. They tried to figure out what other countries did on clairvoyance. In addition, research was done to clairvoyance and psychics were used by the government.

Related Who Really Owns and Controls the Military-Industrial Complex and What Are They Doing? - An Extensive Research Report http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2016/05/Who-Really-Owns-and-Controls-the-Military-Industrial-Complex-and-What-Are-They-Doing-An-Extensive-Research-Report.html

Related CIA is Funding Companies that Specialize in Social Media Spying
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2016/04/CIA-is-Funding-Companies-that-Specialize-in-Social-Media-Spying.html

Clairvoyance Clearly Demonstrated
The Psychics were educated on remote viewing, precognition (seeing the future) and telepathy. They had to include information on targets that could not be approached in a conventional manner.

Para Psychologist and Professor Jessica Utts of the University of California - Irvine concluded after her review of the project that clairvoyance was clearly demonstrated.

Related Disclosure: Bases 6 - Controlled Remote Viewing - Briefing by Paul O'Connor (Video)
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2013/12/disclosure-bases-6-controlled-remote.html

The study suggested according to her clairvoyance works just like our other five senses, namely by observing change. It is possible that clairvoyance is a sort of sensing the future to find significant changes, much like our eyes scan the area for visual change, says Utts.

"It makes little sense to continue with experiments designed to provide evidence, as there is little more can be offered to anyone who refuses to accept the current data," the professor further said. You can download the files about the secret program Stargate here - https://archive.org/details/STARGATEDataset - or view them here - https://archive.org/details/cia-collection?and%5B%5D=STARGATE

Related Remote Viewing, Alien Secrecy, UFOs and Stargates | Dark Journalist with Jim Marrs
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2016/02/remote-viewing-alien-secrecy-ufos-and.html

Related - The Star Gate Project - Did The US Government Really Shut It Down?
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-star-gate-project-did-us-government.html

MK-ULTRA
There are also many thousands of documents released on MK-ULTRA. In the fifties, the CIA secretly experimented on unwitting subjects with the aim of finding a way to brainwash people.

In 1974, the New York Times reported that the CIA between 1953 and 1963, and possibly longer, conducted under the headings Artichoke and MK-ULTRA had experimented on unsuspecting people. The newspaper discovered that the CIA developed brainwashing methods.

The then head of the CIA, Richard Helms, had the scandal already provided in 1973 and then burned all the evidence. A stack of documents, however, was misfiled and was found intact.

MK-ULTRA had branches in more than 150 sub-projects with experiments in more than 80 hospitals and universities. The documents on this secret program can be downloaded here - https://archive.org/details/MKULTRA-Dataset - or if you want to view them piece by piece click here - https://archive.org/details/cia-collection?&and%5B%5D=MKULTRA
All together is about 90,000 documents.

On crowdfunding site Kickstarter there is launched a project to get the nearly 13 million pages of CIA documents public, that are currently still secret.

Related Declassified Documents Disclose CIA Mind Control Programs
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2016/03/declassified-documents-disclose-cia-mind-control-programs.html

View: Stargate Documents
https://archive.org/details/cia-collection?and%5B%5D=STARGATE

View: MK-ULTRA Documents
https://archive.org/details/cia-collection?&and%5B%5D=MKULTRA
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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:14:18 +0100
Subject: "Dangerous Visions | The Bee Maker"


"Dangerous Visions | The Bee Maker"

Interesting short radio drama - I'm guessing she's guessing that whatever is affecting our bees (they forget how to navigate and die of cold and starvation because they can't get home or forage), will eventually start to affect us humans.  Those effects are well illustrated in the show - a bit creepy throughout.
Ray D
PS - as with many apocalyptic scenarios, we have to ask: "Has this happened before?"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046j8zp
Dangerous Visions | The Bee Maker, By Anita Sullivan
It's 2020 and the bees are nearly all gone. Human beings might be next.

Robotics expert, Deborah, builds artificial bees in order to help pollinate fruit trees across the world - real bees having been driven to the brink of extinction. But then a strange phenomenon strikes mankind - people start getting lost. It happens slowly, people lose their way, forget where they are. But before long society starts to crumble.

Deborah must fight her way across an apocalyptic Britain and find her way back home. But first she must remember where that is.

A dark and cautionary tale about our busy technology-filled lives.
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 06:18:37 +0100
Subject: Not a lot of people know


Not a lot of people know:  Rupert Sheldrake's `Morphic Resonance' and `Morphogenetic Fields' imply that all Earth's flora & fauna, forests and mountains, rivers and oceans, each have a `soul' and `memory' of their own - and maybe the entire Earth does too.

Think about that.  Scary - eh?


Cheers
Ray D

PS - just realized: that could (partly) explain certain phenomena seeming very different from continent to continent.  I.e. Reports of paranormal or ET / human interaction are mainly "aggressive" in South America, while in N America and Europe most reports merely say "inquisitive" / "curious".

PPS - this whole concept seems close to the belief my Danish pals told me was common there, and also in Iceland.





Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 08:18:44 +0100
Subject: "China eyes hunt for alien life with giant telescope"


"China eyes hunt for alien life with giant telescope"
Here you go Choong, looks like China aims to take over some extraterrestrial responsibilities.   [Check that last paragraph - seems one could read it in two, or maybe four, different ways]
Ray


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-science-idUSKCN0ZJ05H
Technology | Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:33am EDT
E.T. phone home: China eyes hunt for alien life with giant telescopeFAST Scope

China on Sunday hoisted the final piece into position on what will be the world's largest radio telescope, which it will use to explore space and help in the hunt for extraterrestrial life, state media said.

The Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope, or FAST, is the size of 30 football fields and has been hewed out of a mountain in the poor southwestern province of Guizhou.
Scientists will now start debugging and trials of the telescope, Zheng Xiaonian, deputy head of the National Astronomical Observation under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which built the telescope, told the official Xinhua news agency.

"The project has the potential to search for more strange objects to better understand the origin of the universe and boost the global hunt for extraterrestrial life," the report paraphrased Zheng as saying.
...
China's ambitions include putting a man on the moon by 2036 and building a space station, work on which has already begun.
China insists its program is for peaceful purposes, but the U.S. Defense Department has highlighted China's increasing space capabilities, saying it is pursuing activities aimed to prevent adversaries from using space-based assets in a crisis.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:06:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "In politics, nothing happens by accident"


Hi Ray,
Sadly, I tend to agree.
Trish

On Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 9:01, Ray Dickenson wrote:
"In politics, nothing happens by accident - If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way" - FDR
So I'm getting suspicious about the shooting of Jo Cox; - i.e. that she was sacrificed to make `Remain' status quo look good.  Maybe a bit like Jill Dando was. Ray

-
FB post
About those suspicions re: shooting of Jo Cox - check latest:

https://www.rt.com/uk/347621-leave-voters-mi5-brexit/
Third of `Leave' voters think MI5 spies working with govt to stop Brexit - poll
Edited time: 21 Jun, 2016 15:25
Up to one third of Leave voters think the UK's intelligence agency MI5 is conspiring with the government to stop Britain leaving the European Union in the upcoming referendum, according to a poll by YouGov.

The poll, which was carried out for radio station LBC, also found that 28 percent of all voters believe the referendum is rigged, while 64 percent of UKIP supporters thought the vote on Thursday is likely to be fixed.

A total of 21 percent of the 1,656 people surveyed believed MI5 was working with the government to try to stop Brexit, while 40 percent said it was `probably false.'
(more at page ....)
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:18:42 +0100
Subject: Art of stone: spiritual sculptures around the world - in pictures


"Art of stone: spiritual sculptures around the world - in pictures"

Don't usually waste time with the Guardian's arty-farty picture pieces but there's a few interesting ones here.  For instance those stone spheres are actually found around the world, not just in Costa Rica (and think #10 Cappadocia are actually natural formations?).Carved Hand

Recall a few (smaller) old temples in eastern Thailand, towards the Mekong.

BTW - also recall the Thais seemed fond of carved `hands' in wood or stone, each making a different significant sign or gesture.
Ray


https://www.theguardian.com/~/talking-stones-elaine-ling-photographer-in-pictures
Art of stone: spiritual sculptures around the world - in pictures
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Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 18:12:21 +0100
Subject: More Greeks Turn to Worship of Ancient Gods


More Greeks Turn to Worship of Ancient Gods

Strange - although think there's been similar groups arising among Nordics / Germanics etc., not to mention `fundamentalists' of all stripes around the world.
Cheers
Ray D


http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/06/13/more-greeks-turn-to-worship-of-ancient-gods/
News from Greece | By Philip Chrysopoulos - Jun 13, 2016
More Greeks Turn to Worship of Ancient Gods

The worship of gods of the ancients is returning as groups that espouse adoration for the mythological figures have sprung up in modern-day Greece.

Several areas dedicated to the worship of Greek gods have been established. At the same time, followers view Christianity as a religion that has replaced the old religious practices of ancient Greeks, often by violent means.

One such group is the Supreme Council of Ethnic Hellenes, which was founded in 1997. Another is the Labrys religious community.

Yet, many of the so-called worshippers of old gods are mainly modern-day Greeks who envision reviving the Hellenic spirit of ancient times.

The Prometheia festival is a good example. It is an annual event `highlighting the ancient Greek spirit.' Inspired and realized by Professor of Philosophy, Dr. Tryphon Olympios, it has now become something of a pan-Hellenic institution, entering the 21st year of continuous presence.

Taking place at the foot of Mount Olympus - `home' of the 12 gods of ancient Greece - it is more of an event, taking Greeks `back to their roots' as Olympios has said. And this is the purpose of similar movements.
(more at page ...)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:15:32 +0100
Subject: Yew Tree


Yew Tree
www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/richard-mabey-yew-trees/

Was prompted to look up `Yew Trees' (by a book promotion) and found this page.  Interesting due to having seen several very old (gnarled, split and hollow - but still healthy) yews in very old churchyards.Yew in Graveyard

Also noted page mention of myth/fable about yews interacting with surroundings and even emitting `hallucinatory' effects.

That reminded me of a 40 or 50 foot yew overlooking far corner of carpark of a hotel I used to visit (Welsh border) and, in the depths of winter I would park my landrover under it because it somehow protected the vehicle from freezing over, although all the other cars would be hard-iced (I often left that hotel very late at night or early in the morning).
Ray D





Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:12:12 +0100
Subject: Elon Musk - we are a computer simulation?


Elon Musk - are we a computer simulation?

Personally think there are objections to Musk's `logical alternatives' (see below).
1) `consciousness' might be impossible to create by a computer program (folk like Roger Penrose seem to agree) - which destroys Musk's forecasts (because his `simulations' won't exist);

2) humans are evolving, their future is unknown; a form of transcendence might be ahead which will split humans from simple physicality and so change all their aims and future objectives - again destroying Musk's forecasts (because our descendants can't / won't be interested in `ancestor simulations');

3) intelligent folk won't waste time on non-reality (`simulations' etc. no matter how lifelike), preferring to study the actual universe (and all its inhabitants?) - again destroying Musk's forecasts (because we will be too intelligent to follow them).

Cheers
Ray D


http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11837608/elon-musk-simulation-argument
Elon Musk believes we are probably characters in some advanced civilization's video game
Updated by Ezra Klein on June 2, 2016, 2:03 a.m. ET

By far the best moment of Recode's annual Code Conference was when Elon Musk took the stage and explained that though we think we're flesh-and-blood participants in a physical world, we are almost certainly computer-generated entities living inside a more advanced civilization's video game.

Don't believe me? Here's Musk's argument in full:
***
The strongest argument for us being in a simulation probably is the following. Forty years ago we had pong. Like, two rectangles and a dot. That was what games were.

Now, 40 years later, we have photorealistic, 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously, and it's getting better every year. Soon we'll have virtual reality, augmented reality.

If you assume any rate of improvement at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality, even if that rate of advancement drops by a thousand from what it is now. Then you just say, okay, let's imagine it's 10,000 years in the future, which is nothing on the evolutionary scale.

So given that we're clearly on a trajectory to have games that are indistinguishable from reality, and those games could be played on any set-top box or on a PC or whatever, and there would probably be billions of such computers or set-top boxes, it would seem to follow that the odds that we're in base reality is one in billions.

Tell me what's wrong with that argument. Is there a flaw in that argument?
***

This came in response to a question from journalist Josh Topolsky, who pressed Musk further. "The argument makes sense," Topolsky said. "But what do you think?"

"There's a one in billions chance we're in base reality," Musk replied. He continued:

***
Arguably we should hope that that's true, because if civilization stops advancing, that may be due to some calamitous event that erases civilization. So maybe we should be hopeful this is a simulation, because otherwise we are going to create simulations indistinguishable from reality or civilization ceases to exist. We're unlikely to go into some multimillion-year stasis.
***

In this answer, Musk is repeating one of my favorite thought experiments. It comes from philosopher Nick Bostrom's aptly titled paper "Are You in a Computer Simulation?" You can read the whole thing here, but the core is more or less as Musk describes it:

***
One thing that later generations might do with their super-powerful computers is run detailed simulations of their forebears or of people like their forebears. Because their computers would be so powerful, they could run a great many such simulations.

Suppose that these simulated people are conscious (as they would be if the simulations were sufficiently fine-grained and if a certain quite widely accepted position in the philosophy of mind is correct). Then it could be the case that the vast majority of minds like ours do not belong to the original race but rather to people simulated by the advanced descendants of an original race. It is then possible to argue that, if this were the case, we would be rational to think that we are likely among the simulated minds rather than among the original biological ones. Therefore, if we don't think that we are currently living in a computer simulation, we are not entitled to believe that we will have descendants who will run lots of such simulations of their forebears. That is the basic idea.
***

The argument basically resolves down to three options, which Wikipedia summarizes thusly:

"The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage (that is, one capable of running high-fidelity ancestor simulations) is very close to zero," or
"The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero," or
"The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one."


Musk is picking the third option here. It's worth noting that Bostrom doesn't share Musk's confidence. He's said that he doesn't see any obvious way to choose between the three options:

If (1) is true, then we will almost certainly go extinct before reaching posthumanity. If (2) is true, then there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations so that virtually none contains any relatively wealthy individuals who desire to run ancestor-simulations and are free to do so. If (3) is true, then we almost certainly live in a simulation. In the dark forest of our current ignorance, it seems sensible to apportion one's credence roughly evenly between (1), (2), and (3).

This is a fun paper, and it's led to lots of debate. If you want to dive deep into it, head to the simulation argument website, and you can spend days digging into the debate. For what it's worth, I side with critics who think the three options aren't actual exhaustive: I don't see a reason to believe that even very advanced civilizations will manage to easily simulate consciousness.

But that's just what a simulated consciousness who believes he's a special participant in base reality would say, isn't it?

You can watch the whole exchange here, beginning at about the 1:15:00 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KK_kzrJPS8

Or pick from the conference series at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLKof9YSAshgyPqlK-UUYrHfIQaOzFPSL4&v=2KK_kzrJPS8
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Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 18:45:58 +0100
Subject: "Where's the Edge of the Universe?"


"Where's the Edge of the Universe?"

Heck!  This guy is almost amusing, with his `assertions by dictat' and complacent fashionable assumptions which are NOT backed by definitive proofs.

I.e. the `expanding universe' is a theory which is losing traction even now, first because the red-shift hypothesis is likely wrong [it's mostly quantized - which means it's not due to distance or speed (away from us)], and second because the CMB is looking more like `tired starlight' (or old `jets' at a fairly uniform temperature) and NOT a `Big Bang remnant'.
Ray
PS - he doesn't even seem to realize that when he says "What's outside our observable limit? That one's easy: It's just more stuff, like galaxies and black holes ..." - then the unavoidable implication is that the Universe IS infinite. - RD


http://www.space.com/33005-where-is-the-universes-edge-op-ed.html
By Paul Sutter, Astrophysicist | May 27, 2016 11:00am ET

Where's the Edge of the Universe?
We all know that the universe is expanding, right? Well, if you weren't aware, now you are. We live in an expanding universe: Every galaxy is flying away from every other galaxy. This naturally leads to a common question: If the universe is expanding, what's it expanding into? More universe? Nothing? Something resembling a vague fog? Where's the edge of our cosmic soap bubble?

Well, our universe does have an edge - that is, if by "our universe," you mean the observable universe. The speed of light is just that - a speed - and the universe has only been around for so long (about 13.77 billion years), which means only so much of the universe has been revealed to us via the light that has traveled those vast cosmic distances. And what's outside our observable limit? That one's easy: It's just more stuff, like galaxies and black holes and new, fantastic varieties of cheese. It's forever unreachable by us, sure - but it's still over there. [Our Expanding Universe: Age, History & Other Facts]

From our perspective, it looks like we're at the center of everything, and every single galaxy is flying away from us. So that, naturally, leads to the "There's got to be an edge" line of reasoning. But let's say you hopped over to Andromeda, our nearest galactic neighbor. From that new vantage point, it still looks like you're at the center of the universe and everything is flying away from you. Now let's go really crazy and pretend we can teleport you to the most distant observable galaxy, on the far edge of our observational reach. Guess what? Yup, from your position, it looks like you're at the center of the universe, and every galaxy - including the distant Milky Way - is racing away from you.

That's what we mean when we say "The universe is expanding." Every galaxy is receding from every other galaxy (with a few minor exceptions from local mergers, but that's the subject of another article).

But there's got to be a limit, right? It's not like the universe is infinite, right? Right?

Well, probably not. While it is very, very, very large, the universe is not likely infinitely big.

But it still doesn't need an edge.

Think again about hopping from galaxy to galaxy. From the Milky Way, the universe looks like an enormous soap bubble growing in size, with us at the center. But from another galaxy, this universal bubble looks different, because there's a different galaxy at the "center" of the bubble. What we might be tempted to call an "inside" or an "edge" of our universe is meaningless from the new perspective. And that's true for every single galaxy.

I'll say it again: "Expanding universe" just means every galaxy is moving farther apart from every other galaxy. That's it! No edge. No bubble. Nothing to expand into. The math is simple: The universe gets bigger with time. And that's it.

Let's take a step back. Everyone knows those common analogies used to describe an expanding universe: Galaxies are like ants crawling around on a beach ball. We're all raisins in a loaf of bread. And - oh! - the beach ball is inflating! Yes! The loaf of bread is rising in the oven! Space is expanding, and the galaxies are carried along with it! See? Easy!

Those analogies certainly get across an important point: The galaxies aren't flying or shooting or waltzing away from each other. It's the space underneath them that's doing all the work of expanding; the galaxies are just along for the cosmic carpet ride.

But those analogies also carry a fatal flaw. We can all easily imagine an inflating beach ball or a rising loaf of bread, and we immediately think of them as expanding into something: empty air. The beach ball has a skin. The loaf has a delicious, crunchy crust. They have edges, and they're moving into something.

Our minds have played a trick on us, and it's cheating us from being fully awestruck at what's going on.

When we use the ants-on-a-beach-ball analogy, the first thing people say is, "Why ants?" I don't know; deal with it. And the second thing people say is, "Oh, the center of the universe is right there, in the middle of the ball." At that point, I have to jump in with the limitations of the analogy: Our entire universe is the surface of the beach ball. And the surface of the ball has no center. Just as the surface of the Earth has no center. We could've made the poles anywhere we pleased.

In the beach ball model, our entire universe is a two-dimensional surface, full of idiot ants trying to crawl toward each other but failing because some jerk keeps inflating it. OK, fine, whatever. That model universe is two-dimensional, but in our mind's eye, we immediately think of it expanding into a third dimension - a dimension that the ants can't access, because they can't jump. But that extra dimension provides a "place" for the surface of the ball to expand into.

But our real universe is three-dimensional. While string theory suggests there might be extra dimensions, they're all supertiny, so those don't count. So is there a fourth extra dimension that provides the "stuff" for our universe to expand into?

Maybe, maybe not. Here's the thing: The mathematics could support a fourth dimension for our 3D universe to expand into. And we would definitely have an "edge" in this extra dimension, the same way you can point to the "edge" of a 2D beach ball surface.

But it doesn't have to.

We don't need a fourth dimension to wrap around our universe. We have a complete and consistent mathematical description of the expansion of the universe using only the normal, workaday three dimensions that we know and love. So that means we can have an expanding universe without needing an edge or a thing for it to expand into.

I'll admit I have trouble wrapping my head around this concept. But that's the beauty of using mathematics to understand the universe: We can create and manipulate concepts that our brains simply couldn't handle on their own!

Learn more by listening to the episode "What's the Point in Talking About Science?" on the Ask A Spaceman podcast, available on iTunes and on the web at http://www.askaspaceman.com. Ask your own question on Twitter using #AskASpaceman or by following Sutter@PaulMattSutter and facebook.com/PaulMattSutter.
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Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 17:04:49 +0100
Subject: "Mysterious Markings May Hold Clues to Origin of Writing"


"Mysterious Markings May Hold Clues to Origin of Writing"

Quite interesting, that a wide range of `symbols' were in common use all across Eurasia (as far East as the Urals) from very early on in the `Old Stone Age' (c. 40,000 yrs ago).
Although one conclusion: that it meant they had invented their `system' before their arrival in Europe and Asia (i.e. in a putative `African' homeland) might be wrong.

That is, the same condition (a widely used common system) would exist if all of those groups enjoyed an efficient communications system capable of linking folk thousands of miles apart.

Maybe see Professor McLeish's comment (site page):
"Scientific studies show that non-literate societies throughout the world and throughout history, have worked from a common base of values, superstition, folklore and calendar-linked custom and behavior which is unaffected by geographical, social and historical boundaries and if superstitious belief and ritual are transmitted in this way, why should not factual, correct and even advanced scientific information travel by similar unseen means?"
John McLeish - `Number'; HarperCollins, London 1992 ISBN 0-00-654484-3

Cheers
Ray D


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/cave-art-ice-age-paleolithic-writing-first-signs/
Mysterious Markings May Hold Clues to Origin of Writing

Geometric signs on cave walls and ancient artifacts may be some of humanity's earliest graphic communications.
By Heather Pringle | PUBLISHED MAY 29, 2016

For decades, archaeologists have pored over the spectacular images of stampeding horses and charging bison left by Ice Age artists on European cave walls more than 10,000 years ago. But few researchers have paid much attention to the simple geometric signs that often accompany the art. Unable to interpret or decipher these markings, many archaeologists dismissed them as mere decorations.

Now, paleoanthropologist Genevieve von Petzinger, a Ph.D. student at the University of Victoria in Canada and a National Geographic Emerging Explorer, has conducted a new study of the signs, gleaning fresh clues to their purpose. In a forthcoming book entitled The First Signs, von Petzinger reports that Ice Age Europeans used just 32 distinct types of geometric symbols over a period of 30,000 years, suggesting that the markings were "meant to transmit information" an early step on humanity's long road to developing writing.

Von Petzinger, the granddaughter of a World War II codebreaker at Bletchley Park in England, began her study nearly a decade ago. "I was interested in finding patterns in the signs across time and space," she says. Frances well-dated Ice Age rock art sites seemed the best place to start, so she combed through inventories of the cave paintings and engravings for records of geometric signs. Then she classified the markings by type, entered them in a relational database, and looked for patterns in the data.

The preliminary findings took her by surprise. She thought that the Ice Age artists would begin with just a few sign types and gradually add more symbols to their repertoire over time - a trend towards complexity that other researchers observed in the development of tools. But that didn't happen in France. Instead, the Canadian researcher found that nearly three-quarters of the sign types were already in use during the Aurignacian period, which lasted from 40,000 to 28,000 years ago. This early complexity didn't look like the start of a tradition. It suggested instead that the signs' origins lay somewhere else.

Intrigued, von Petzinger expanded her study to all of Europe, scouring reports of 367 Upper Paleolithic rock art sites from northern Spain to the Ural Mountains in Russia. In addition, she looked for mentions of markings on portable art, such as a deer-tooth necklace found in the grave of an Ice Age woman known as the Lady of St. Germaine-la-Rivière.

Two Weeks Underground
But many of the existing inventories lacked details von Petzinger needed to classify the symbols. So she journeyed to Europe with her photographer-husband Dillon von Petzinger to record signs in 52 rarely visited caves. "We spent the equivalent of two weeks underground," she says. In the process the pair discovered several previously unnoticed signs.

The resulting study was an eye-opener: She found just 32 types of signs in use across the entire continent during the Upper Paleolithic period. "For there to be this much continuity between sites, I realized that our ancient ancestors had to have a system in place," she writes. Moreover, the early diversity of geometric signs she had discovered in France was repeated across Europe. This suggested that modern humans had invented these signs long before they arrived in Europe - most likely in their African homeland.

Once strung on a necklace, these deer teeth were discovered in the grave of an Ice Age woman who lived nearly 16,000 years ago. The markings on the teeth may have been memory aids to help the owner recite an important tribal story.

But what exactly was the point of the markings? At a decorated cave known as La Pasiega in Spain, early cave-art researchers discovered a rare sequence of Ice Age signs painted about 12 feet (3.6 meters) above the floor. Arranged in three groups separated by spaces, the markings in La Pasiega resembled a short written message, prompting speculation that the signs formed an early writing system.

Von Petzinger, however, found little evidence to support that idea. By definition, a writing system, she notes, "is the systematic representation of spoken language." Any idea or thought that a speaker can express verbally can be jotted down or inscribed. But Europe's cave artists did not have a sufficient number of geometric signs, or did not combine them in the right way, to represent all the words that would have occurred in their language. "We don't seem to have all the complexities to write a paragraph or a sonnet," von Petzinger says.

Even so, the Ice Age signs were far from meaningless, she says. Some markings, such as the meandering lines that von Petzinger spotted at a site in Portugal#s Côa Valley region, may have been maplike representations of a river or other landscape features. Other signs, such as the lines inscribed on the deer-tooth necklace, could have served as memory aids for ceremonialists presiding over important rituals or recounting a tribe's origin stories. Such markings, says von Petzinger, seem to be a way of storing information externally - a form of graphic communication that eventually led to writing.

Paleoanthropologist Ian Tattersall, a curator emeritus at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, finds much value in the new study. "It's really nice to see the abstract symbolism brought to the fore," he says. "We have these wonderful animal images in caves like Chauvet and so forth, but that is just the tip of it. The symbolic stuff clearly had meaning."

Other researchers think von Petzinger's research will likely spur new interest in a neglected subject. "It will make people think about the signs all over again, and the extent of the record of signs will awaken people's interest," says Louise Leakey, a paleoanthropologist at the Turkana Basin Institute in Nairobi, Kenya.

Certainly von Petzinger would welcome more archaeologists in this field of research, as she's convinced there is a lot to be learned.

"I personally believe that without those first tentative steps [our distant ancestors] took into the world of graphic communication, the cognitive building blocks would not have been there for their descendants to create the writing systems we take for granted today," she concludes in The First Signs.
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Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 20:03:59 +0100
Subject: Hitler's Archeology


Hitler's Archeology

A quick look at past abuses of science - in this short documentary on Hitler's wish for archeological `justification' heard the sentence (paraphrased):  "Authoritarian dictators will always want to invent or suppress archeological discoveries" - and suddenly thought of the Smithsonian and all those `giant' skeletons they've hidden or destroyed.
Cheers
Ray D
PS - it's an interesting little documentary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cfcHHFwS6M
How Adolf Hitler Used Archaeology in WW2 (DOCUMENTARY)




Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 14:44:32 -0500
Subject: Re: "The Greatest Smithsonian cover up"


Thanks for this, Ray!  This makes me wonder how many interesting bits are buried in the archives of newspapers.  Maybe more of these things are being noticed.  I suppose people have it easier these days to search or browse such collections after they're digitized.
Mark

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Ray Dickenson wrote:
"The Greatest Smithsonian cover up"

More on Giant Skeletons and the Smithsonian - have fun
Ray
PS thanks to FB item


http://www.ancient-code.com/the-greatest-smithsonian-cover-up-dozens-of-giant-skeletons-discovered-around-the-world/ - New York Times article from 1912 (Madison, Wisconsin) Wisconsin item

More newspaper `giant' articles from that era - at http://www.sydhav.no/giants/newspapers.htm

The Greatest Smithsonian cover up: Dozens of Giant skeletons discovered around the world
It seems that the idea that Giants walked on Earth is a possibility being considered by more people in the last couple of years. Due to the number of mysterious findings around the world, a large number of researchers is considering the possibility that these `mythological' beings actually existed on Earth in the distant past.

Stories and tales about gigantic beings inhabiting Earth occur in almost all ancient cultures and civilizations. We can find stories in many mythologies of the ancient world: Greek, Norse, Germanic, Indian, Indo-European, and also in the new world as in the traditions of the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas; but most importantly in almost all mayor sacred books of antiquity: the Lebhar Gabhale, the Hindu Ramayana and even in the Bible.

One of those `crucial' pieces of evidence is a discovery made in Wisconsin, a discovery that was omitted by researchers who remained silent and decided not to speak about the lost race of giants found in burial mounds near Lake Delavan in Wisconsin. The mysterious discovery, which was first reported in the 4 May 1912 issue of the New York Times states that at least 18 anomalous skeletons had been found in Wisconsin exhibiting extremely weird features unlike any known species to date. The excavation side was overseen by the Beloit College and included over 200 mounds. (source)

These anomalous skeletons were unlike anything seen before, totally differing from any known human species with alleged heights that ranged between 8 to 10 feet.

"Presumably those of men, are much larger than the heads of any race which inhabit America to-day."

Vine Deloria, a Native American author and professor of law said:

"Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor.

"The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited.

"This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past."

The Smithsonian Institute has been accused by many people of deliberately hiding discoveries that could potentially alter the views society has on history and life on Earth.

Discoveries of beings that are unlike any know human species have been made around the world. In 2002, a report by National Geographic state that over a dozen of giant skeletal remains were found in Greece, ranging in height between 10 and 12 feet.

On 10 August 1891, the New York Times reported that scientists from the Smithsonian Institution had discovered several large `pyramidal monuments' on Lake Mills, near Madison, Wisconsin.

"Madison was in ancient days the center of a teeming population numbering not less than 200,000," the Times said.

"The celebrated mounds of Ohio and Indiana can bear no comparison, either in size, design or the skill displayed in their construction with these gigantic and mysterious monuments of earth - erected we know not by whom, and for what purpose we can only conjecture," said the Times.

The mysterious stories continue throughout the years, and in 1897, the Times wrote another story about large burial mounds discovered in Maple Creek, Wisconsin. (source)

"In it was found the skeleton of a man of gigantic size. The bones measured from head to foot over nine feet and were in a fair state of preservation. The skull was as large as a half bushel measure. Some finely tempered rods of copper and other relics were lying near the bones."

In 1870 the Wisconsin Decatur Republican wrote an article about two well-preserved giant skeletons of an unknown race discovered near Potosi.

The list of the anomalous discoveries goes on and on ... and giant skeletal remains have been found in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky and New York, and other places around the world. Strangely, these discoveries have never been given proper attention by the media, and most researchers consider them as being unimportant to history.

We cannot forget to mention the 200 million year old Giant Footprint found in Africa that hasn't been explained by researchers who have tried very hard to ignore it since it could potentially rewrite history as we know it.
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Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:08:26 +0100
Subject: UK Evacuation!


UK Evacuation!

In present circumstances this is interesting:
Just happened to click part of sci-fi movie `Ice 2020' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraDaw58ZYc where our rugged (upper-class English) hero tells the Prime Minister he'll have to evacuate the population of the UK (to escape oncoming `IceAge') and the PM duly orders the evac WITHOUT asking permission from countries to the south which he apparently expects to allow 70 million people to enter, get food and accommodation etc., while moving onward to OTHER further south countries, again without permission!

D'you think that's a likely scenario?
Ray





Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:34:10 +0100
Subject: Whitby Abbey mock graveyard idea to deter ghoulish photos


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-36297365
Whitby Abbey mock graveyard idea to deter ghoulish photosGraveyard

Spent a weekend at Whitby with a girlfriend and we had to walk all the way up the steep path through that graveyard to get to the ruined Abbey on the cliff-top - an interesting ruin, you can see the `damp-proof course' of slate quite clearly, along with weird architectural stuff.

That graveyard is more than a bit spooky also, quite apart from its `Dracula' associations.
Ray


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-20970716
Whitby landslip exposes human bones at 'Dracula graveyard'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitby_Abbey
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:29:11 +0100
Subject: Here's a good presentation from Klaus


Here's a good presentation from Klaus, and think his accent is improving.
Have always respected his down-to-earth approach.
Cheers
Ray D
PS - Pt 2 is in RH Menu
PPS - Here's our own research into elongated (alien?) skulls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HgAdWXRI8E
Klaus Dona - Unsolved Mysteries pt.1: Giants, Elongated Skulls & Ooparts - FULL LECTURE




Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 07:40:13 +0100
Subject: Well Dressings


"Crowds flock to Tissington Well Dressings"

Can recall going to see this as a kid, very quaint and ornamental.  Here's one of Tissington's wells, before and after `dressing'.  Tissington Well - after Tissington Well - before
[CLICK for Full Size]
Have noticed that (isolated and perennial) wells or springs in semi-arid countries are quite often `dressed', in a more minimalist way, by locals who obviously value the water and its purity.

Quite near to me is one of Wales' wells named for St Winifred, actually a carved underground chamber from which the upwelling water runs out to form a stream. Winifred's Well - under cottage

I went into the chamber, carved from the living rock many hundreds of years ago (there's a 16th? Cent. cottage built atop the rock) to photograph an alcove cut into the back wall and was struck by the atmosphere inside - very refreshing.

Weirdly though, when the film was developed, all shots featured lots of little `sparks' floating in the air inside the dark chamber; quite eerie, because I didn't see them at the time.
Ray


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-36215998
Crowds flock to Tissington Well Dressings
An annual well dressing festival with roots believed to date back as far as the 14th Century is taking place in a Derbyshire village.

Tissington, which has a population of about 110 people, will welcome 35,000 over the course of a week for the Tissington Well Dressings.
Six wells have been decorated using clay, petals and coffee beans.

It is believed the tradition began when locals reasoned they escaped the Black Death due to the water supply's purity.

The wells were decorated with the help of volunteers and children
(more at page ...)
The origins of the event date back as far as the 14th Century, when villagers all escaped the Black Death
The event, which began on Thursday, will conclude on Wednesday.
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 01:02:07 +0800
Subject: Re: Nibiru, Egypt in USA, China in Egypt


Yes Ray, Egypt has its own strange contradictions, from what we can glean from its artifacts from murals, text to physical objects it seems to proof that depending on which dynasty they look different, I can see African, Oriental, Occidental and even sort of demi-gods looking Caucasian features in some dynastic lineups and of course things wont complete without mentioning someone like Akhenaton with an elongated head which I think is the top end of the hierarchy of direct descendant of the first founder alien god on top of all of them in later stage of history.
Choong

On 05-May-16 3:35 AM, Ray Dickenson wrote:
Right Choong and Dave, there seems to be a lot of stuff emerging which indicates that earlier civilizations existed of which we had no records or even inklings.

In particular there are now signs that Chinese explorers visited the `New World' hundreds of years before Columbus, and also that Egyptians came to America from the East in earlier times (and it seems they visited Australia too).  Apropos, if you check the very early Egyptian carved illustrations they show people with pale skins and almond eyes - a very Sino-featured folk.
Ray


-----Original Message----- From: Choong K*** Y***
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 8:01 PM

NASA, Smithsonian and nearly all American "public" institution cannot be trusted, they have the occult elite to protect and history is their biggest fear, in fact I just watched a youtube doc on what they found somewhere along the Grand Canyon with carvings of huge giants with a "god-like" humanoid statue sitting with hand gesture in a lotus position of unmistakably Buddhist in form and factor, all are very Oriental looking status, the place has been a secret ever since because it is not "politically correct" to admit a culture outside of the western dominion mindset can exist in what is now known as the USA during ancient times, but personally speaking there is a story of Chuan Tzang hope I spelled it correctly which concerns his "Journey to the West" legend along with that Monkey god fame, not that this is related but it won't even surprise me if just some thousands years ago some people from the East has been in the US before being gone for whatever reasons and then only came the " New World " period of Columbus.
Choong

On 05-May-16 1:40 AM, amish@**** wrote:
Nibiru or Planet X is no longer a conjecture. NASA not only knows that it exists they also know where it is and have an approximate time schedule on its appearance.
DAVE




Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:48:19 +0100
Subject: "Other intelligent ... species very likely have evolved before us"


"Other intelligent ... species very likely have evolved before us"

Yup, inner circles of astronomers (and exo-biologists) have known this for a while - the mainstream takes quite a time to catch up.

See www.ufoupdateslist.com/2008/feb/m19-003.shtml from 2008, and www.ufoupdateslist.com/2012/dec/m11-001.shtml from 2012.
But note that `UNIVERSE The Cosmology Quest' (pt 1) video has moved here ]


Cheers
Ray D


http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/0501/Probability-we-re-the-only-intelligent-life-ever-Really-low-say-astronomers
Probability we're the only intelligent life ever? Really low, say astronomers.
A new paper shows that the recent discoveries of exoplanets, plus a revised Drake's equation, produces a new, empirically valid probability of whether any other advanced civilizations have ever existed.
By Lonnie Shekhtman, Staff MAY 1, 2016

Astronomers revised the half-century old Drake equation, which attempts to calculate the probability of the existence of advanced alien civilizations, to determine whether such civilizations has existed at any point in the history of the universe.

They found that the chances that a human civilization evolved on Earth and nowhere else in the universe are less than about one in 10 billion trillion.

"To me, this implies that other intelligent, technology-producing species very likely have evolved before us," said Adam Frank, professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester, in a statement. Dr. Frank was a co-author on a paper on the subject published in the journal Astrobiology on April 22.

To put it another way, as Chris Harwood points out on CBSNews.com, even if life evolves on only one planet in a billion that are orbiting in the habitable zones of their stars, meaning at the right distance to create the temperature needed for water to remain liquid, which is considered a prerequisite for life, "that still means it's happened on the order of 10 trillion times," said Dr. Frank to CBS.
(more at page ...)
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Date:Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:22:56 +0100
Subject: Pictures scientists say prove 'invisible alien entities ARE here on Earth'


Pictures scientists say prove 'invisible alien entities ARE here on Earth'

Interesting - these pics immediately reminded of Trevor Constable's photos, and the much later (NASA filmed) objects that Martyn Stubbs classed as `ultra-fast entities' (because no-one's certain whether they are craft, robots or actual beings).

Maybe check Martyn's stuff at ufo-uap.html, a recent drone reference and a linked sci-reason,

Cheers
Ray D
Thanks to FB and `Ancient Codes' for initial alert - RD


http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/639279/SCIENTISTS-discover-invisible-alien-entities-spying-on-us-on-Earth
The incredible pictures scientists say prove 'invisible alien entities ARE here on Earth'

SCIENTISTS seeking evidence of anti-matter in space claim to have stumbled across a previously unknown "invisible life form" here on Earth, which alarmingly could be SPYING on us.
(more at page)
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Date:Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:37:52 +0100
Subject: Hawara Labyrinth Egyptian Complex


Hawara Labyrinth Egyptian Complex

Interesting stuff - at the start Carmen Boulter gives kudos to Klaus Dona who paid for? and began the first survey.  Have mentioned before that Klaus Dona is a very interesting and erudite figure, with several great archeological presentations on Youtube.

Ray
PS - here's an interview with Klaus Dona


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsqG8DKq8vA
BREAKING NEWS - Hawara Labyrinth Egyptian Complex
Dr. Carmen Boulter joins Modern Knowledge's David Whitehead and Christopher Russak in a full, video enhanced and illustrated BREAKING interview regarding the recent news on the mysterious Hawara Labyrinth in Egypt.
(more ...)
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:39:43 +0100
Subject: "Walpurgis Night


Walpurgis Night

Tomorrow (30th) is `May Eve' (aka "Walpurgis Night") the night before `May Day', and both have a long history.

Recall reading of a 17th? Cent. diary entry (paraphrased) : "Today being May Eve should gather hazel? and rowan to put over the door to keep the Old Witch away - the young witches are welcome".
Cheers
Ray D





Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:40:33 +0100
Subject: Poltergeist Phenomena with Stephen E. Braude


Poltergeist Phenomena

Interesting.   In a page of `para' phenomena I'd collected some years ago (see ghosty.html#polt),  I'd noted that "most so-called `explanations' for poltergeists seem to be merely circular arguments.  These variously cite `stress', `trauma' or `sexual tension' but completely fail to show how these "causes" can break the laws of physics - as poltergeist (and PK) events continue to do, in front of many witnesses."
Cheers
Ray D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwG7p9MJ0U
Poltergeist Phenomena with Stephen E. Braude

Published on Apr 11, 2016
Stephen Braude, PhD, is an emeritus professor and former chairman of the philosophy department at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. He has also served as president of the Parapsychological Association. (more ...)

Here he points out that poltergeists are thought to represent the recurrent, spontaneous psychokinetic activity of particular individuals. This is an unconscious process not under the control of the individual. However, generally, the troubling phenomena tend to go away once psychological problems are resolved. Hauntings, on the other hand, represent similar phenomena - associated with a particular location rather than a particular person. Hundreds of such cases have been observed by researchers. The discussion covers many details and nuances found in the available research literature.
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:22:39 +0100
Subject: The Green Children of Woolpit


The Green Children of Woolpit

Coincidentally, a while ago a query from Brazil led us on a trail through myth & legend and folklore which featured those two `green children'.  Almost everyone who'd read the story asked if the green girl later had any children of her own?

The story (with a link to the `green children' Wiki ref) is at green-man-search.html#report
Cheers
Ray D


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00slvqh
29 days left to listen | 30 minutes

The Green Children of Woolpit
Who were the green children of Woolpit and why are peope still fascinated by them?

Sometime in the Twelfth Century two children appeared from a pit on the edge of a field in the Suffolk village of Woolpit. They were coloured green and spoke a unknown language. They sickened until they were allowed to eat green beans. The boy died but the girl revived and grew up learning English, marrying a man from Kings Lynn, and speaking of the place she and her brother had come from.

Susannah Clapp and Richard Mabey investigate the story and its remarkable enduring appeal to villagers, visitors and a succession of folklorists and writers.
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 23:37:59 -0000
Subject: Zombies?


`Zombies'?

Don't watch a lot of movies and _no_ TV so hadn't got around to thinking much about the popular "Zombie" concept.

Therefore just now believe the concept can't be a natural one, since the "disease" or infection would be suicidal: that is, it would almost immediately wipe itself out (unless there's a third phase nobody's mentioned yet).

But, like with cloning, now the idea has been fostered, that doesn't mean that evil folk (or Gov'ts) can't or won't manufacture "zombies".

Cheers
Ray D





Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 00:13:01 -0000
Subject: Lonely Bigfoot?


Lonely Bigfoot?

Strangely, this set of reports seems to tally with others more geographically separated and even older - especially in the accounts of groups of female humans being selected for attention by the "alien" or "bigfoot"/"sasquatch".

We are becoming aware that pheromones, male or female, are detectable at quite a distance and may be irresistible to closely related hominins who might be short of mates these days.

Cheers
Ray D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug3mE2OkcHQ
The Legend Of Boggy Creek 1972




Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 18:13:41 -0000
Subject: "Why So Many Icelanders Still Believe in Invisible Elves


Think I've mentioned youngish Danish colleagues talking about their preference for `nature spirits' and suchlike rather than formal religions.

A pal, Sven Leo, said that Denmark was never willingly converted to Xtianity but only at sword-point, facing conversion or execution.

And, travelling around northern Europe, have noticed, in western Germany, Holland and Belgium, a liking for public figurines or small statues or carvings - of elf-girls or of small bearded men.

Ray


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/why-so-many-icelanders-still-believe-in-invisible-elves/280783/
Why So Many Icelanders Still Believe in Invisible Elves
How the country's history and geography created the perfect setting for magical creatures, whose perceived existence sparks environmental protests to this day.

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: "Why So Many Icelanders Still Believe in Invisible Elves


I' m pretty sure that elves are based on something that's real.

Kurt
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:48:20 -0000

Right Kurt, the huge amount of stories, legends and myths of `little people' from around the world has tempted me to think the same.

So had collected a small page of samples, at uef/xb.html
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:41:38 -0000
Subject: "Floating in Space - BBC Radio


Quite an epic, for a radio program.

Still, despite the archives available they seem to have ignored occasions when astronauts witnessed large entities (at some distance from their spacecraft), and an even stranger occasion when two astronauts saw small, illuminated objects zipping INTO their spacecraft as soon as the hatch was opened.

It seems no-one saw the objects depart so they might have hitched a ride down to Earth and indeed to shuttle base.

There's NASA video record of that at www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWqQd6Ey4k#t=33m40s and more available at ufo-uap.html#yu-tu.

Cheers
Ray D


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b073bhqc
Samira Ahmed embarks on a space journey through the radio archives.
BBC Radio 4 Extra | 28 days left to listen - 3 hours

Floating in Space - 3 hours

Made for 4 Extra: Radio presenter and childhood space obsessive Samira Ahmed embarks on a space journey through the radio archives, travelling from launch site to splashdown.

This will include;
Launch - we take off with the first episode of Charles Chilton's ground breaking drama 'Journey In To Space: Operation Luna'.
Space walk - Alexei Leonov describes the first ever EVA, as told in his book 'Two Sides Of The Moon'.
Astronaut life - a personal perspective from space with the astronaut Kathryn Thornton in the documentary 'Alone'.
Moon landing - find out what really happened in the 1969 Apollo landing in the drama'One Small Step'.
Mars adventure - travel to the red planet with the help of Helen Keen's 'It Is Rocket Science', before we touch down in the drama 'Voyage'.
Return to Earth - we finish off the mission with a dangerous descent to earth with the astronaut Chris Hadfield, as told in his autobiography 'An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth'.
Along the way Samira will be joined by the author Simon Guerrier, discover what it feels like to wear a space suit, and get tips about how to create 'space' on the radio from award winning producer Dirk Maggs.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:29:06 -0000
Subject: "Search narrows for Planet Nine


Recall those phrases "highly elongated orbit" "far reaches of Solar System" from somewhere else?
Ray


http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Search_narrows_for_Planet_Nine_999.html
Search narrows for Planet Nine
By Pascale MOLLARD-CHENEBENOIT | Paris (AFP) Feb 23, 2016

US astronomers announced last month they may have found a ninth planet beyond Neptune, but conceded they had no idea where on an estimated 10,000-20,000-year orbit it might be.

On Tuesday, a French science quartet said they have narrowed the search area.

By studying data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn, the seventh planet from the Sun, they could exclude two zones, the team wrote in the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.

Their work confirmed that a ninth planet might exist in the far reaches of our Solar System, co-author Jacques Laskar of the Paris Observatory told AFP, "but not just anywhere".

Based on mathematical modelling, the French scientists calculated what influence a ninth planet -- travelling along the orbit postulated by the Americans - would have on the movement of other planets as it passed nearby.

They then looked at how the known planets actually behaved.

The postulated planet is thought to circle the Sun in a lopsided, highly elongated, oval loop.

At its most distant from the Sun, the planet would be too far too away for any effect on other planets to ever be detectable, thus limiting astronomers to a searchable zone representing only about half of the total orbit.

Now Laskar and his team have reduced the search area by 50 percent by eliminating two zones in which they say the modelling does not match reality.

"We have cut the work in half," he told AFP.

Last month, astronomers Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown predicted the existence of what they dubbed Planet Nine, about 10 times more massive than Earth.
(more ...)

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:44:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Search narrows for Planet Nine


HaHa!  So funny isn't it?  Suddenly we are not so crazy for believing in this 9th planet - really the 10th but we wont quibble about that. ;)

Cheers
Coralie
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:32:35 -0300
Subject: Re: "Search narrows for Planet Nine


Lol.  Yes it is funny, ironic even.  We knew that sooner or later thay would have no way left to go on debunking, denying, hiding... and its surprising how much creativity they are showing in now preparing us for the "vision" of what we already knew was there and they were denying even its existence.  Well, there´s more water to roll under the bridge.
Boris
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:18:03 -0000
Subject: Re: "Search narrows for Planet Nine


The article also said that the estimated orbit time-length was between 10,000 and 20,000 years long, which confirms that it is an extremely elongated ellipse - and one focus must be the Sun.  Which probably means, depending on contingent gravitational accidents, that it might arrive in the inner Solar System with an Earth-crossing trajectory.
Ray





Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:19:21 -0000
Subject: Are super-fast `drones' the `Invisible Assailants' of past centuries?


"Invisible Assailants"?

For some time have wondered about possible explanations for various weird events, some of which have been collected in a page of well-documented `supernatural' phenomena.  In particular had been worried about the bizarre `woundings'; i.e. cases of `invisible assailants' - because, unlike other so-called supernatural events, these caused definite physical effects and some had occurred before multiple witnesses.  See ghosty.html#knives.

Suddenly got a brain-spark, recollecting that Martyn Stubbs recently (only a few years ago) had managed to record many of NASA's shuttle flights and had analyzed them to reveal that there were TWO phenomena often to be seen in near-Earth space, just above the atmosphere, although one - the spherical ones - could also be seen descending into the atmosphere, apparently heading for large thunderstorms.

[ Martyn's general intro is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITH3gwccX0A#t=19m ]

But the second space phenomenon was much harder to see - because it was only visible for less than 1/30th of a second.  That is, Martyn had to break down the film into 1/60ths of a second to even glimpse them.  Which means these (less than human sized) possibly metallic objects are moving at _very_ high speeds, way beyond human endurance under the laws of inertia.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITH3gwccX0A#t=22m21s for Martyn's description of the super-fast entities (should start at 22 mins 21 secs).

Now if Jacques Vallée is right, and there is a link between so-called ET/UFO phenomena and the bizarre or supernatural, going back in time, that might be an explanation for folk being wounded (even killed) by invisible but fast-moving objects.

Because, as many folk, including Charles Fort (who'd collected many reports of such events) have remarked, the evidence says we've been watched +/or visited by several different types of entity over the centuries, not all of them at the same level of technology.  So some may have been a bit clumsy or careless in their guidance / piloting of those superfast `drones' or `eyes-in-the-sky' - resulting in accidental collisions or `attacks' on innocent earthlings.

BTW - there's some pre-historic evidence which says `drones' were around tens of thousands of years ago.  See this stone-age etching of deer and salmon being observed from above - real-art.html#strange - and scroll down for cave-paintings of other stone-age `UFOs'

Cheers
Ray D

BTW - those `space phenomena' don't necessarily come from outer space - they might've been associated with Earth over long ages. - RD





Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 23:05:10 -0000
Subject: 'What is reality?'


Yup, there's a lot of arguments, for and against - some quasi-mystical, surrounding that question.  However, when folk get too solipsist for my taste I tend to Einstein's opinion: that the Moon exists whether anyone's looking at it or not.
Ray D
Maybe check some `percepts'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zqpcg
The Infinite Monkey Cage
Series 13, What Is Reality? | On radio, Today 23:00 BBC RADIO 4
Available now - 30 minutes

Brian Cox and Robin Ince ask, 'What is reality?'.

Brian Cox and Robin Ince are joined by US superstar neuroscientist David Eagleman, Professor Sophie Scott and comedian Bridget Christie to ask what is reality? Is our sense of the world around us a completely personal experience and a construct of our brains? How can we ever know whether what one person perceives is exactly the same as what another person perceives. Is your sense of the world around you an illusion constructed by this extraordinary organ, the brain, that has no direct access to the outside world that it is helping you to understand.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 01:44:52 -0000
Subject: Jacques Vallee + Remote Viewing + UFOs


Even now, after some years of knowing that Jacques Vallee, apart from being a mathematician, astronomer and computer scientist [NASA (+CIA?)] was also into `remote viewing', I can't hardly get my head around it.

Seems he was in on the ground floor as an adviser of some kind and shaped some of the protocols later used by the RV Group or Corps (CIA?).

In this video he's talking to George Noory of C2C, and mentions (early on) an upcoming RVing conference where he's intending to be opening speaker.
Ray


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blAPHJ6Avk
"Jacques Vallee on UFO's"




Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:12:24 -0000
Subject: Re-cap: "What happened around 7,000 years ago?


Re-cap: "What happened around 7,000 years ago?

Happened to catch this conversation early this morning, and realized / thought that Dominic has gotten partway to the truth - and was slightly surprised by the coincidence when later replying to a pal's mail which, to me, addresses the same subject (see below this BBC URL & prog note).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06z1zdk
Sunday - Last on Today 07:10 BBC RADIO 4
Edward Stourton asks: is it human nature to believe in God? He is joined by Dominic Johnson and Conor Cunningham to discuss.
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2016/01/why-humans-find-it-hard-do-away-religion
`God Is Watching You: How the Fear of God Makes Us Human' by Dominic Johnson is published by Oxford University Press
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:21:10 -0000
Subject: Re: RE: What happened around 7,000 years ago?


Hello Roy,
coincidentally that query, plus others about the Babylonian `inheritance' of unaccountable knowledge, and maybe as importantly, some universal `moral' beliefs, practices and standards which seem to be only acquirable by many thousands of years of record-keeping and complex analysis of long-term outcomes - have all been bothering me for a while, including last night - indeed I woke with them still in the background this morning.

Haven't come to a firm conclusion but your idea of an `intervention' in humanity's mental processes or even in human evolution itself can't be dismissed easily.
Ray D
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N.b. more than a decade ago had considered the data available and arrived at some obvious conclusions - see genes7.html; genes7b.html.

However, as said above, am now tending to think the ancients' analyses would have demanded many thousands of years of _recorded_ observation, of human activities and long term mating and behavior outcomes.

BUT mainstream history doesn't seem to allow for that long a time after the "invention of writing" by the Sumerians / Egyptians - as expressed in earlier message (below):


QUOTE
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:56:51 -0000 Subject: What happened around 7,000 years ago?
What happened around 7,000 years ago?

I'm trying to appreciate the significance of this mystery - maybe it's too big for us to fully comprehend.
Ray D

"Sumerian culture appears to have appeared as a fully formed civilization, with no pre-history."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

"No such `pre-history' is convincingly traceable for Egyptian writing. On present evidence, admittedly sparse and possibly very misleading, it appears to come into use almost `ready-made', as it were"
pp. 111 & 112 `Egyptian Hieroglyphs' - by W V Davies. (1990 - The Trustees of The British Museum)

"Moreover, every aspect of Egyptian knowledge seems to have been complete at the very beginning. The sciences, artistic and architectural techniques and the hieroglyphic system show virtually no sign of a period of `development'; indeed, many of the achievements of the earliest dynasties were never surpassed or even equalled later on. This astonishing fact is readily admitted by orthodox Egyptologists, but the magnitude of the mystery it poses is skilfully understated, while its many implications go unmentioned."
John Anthony West, in `Serpent in the Sky' [http://www.jawest.net/]

ENDQUOTE

Which leaves us even deeper in the mire, although there's a sensational explanation in Sumer / Babylon's legends concerning "an animal [or alien?] by name Oannes".
See magic4.html#teach for full story.

Cheers
Ray D





Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:56:51 -0000
Subject: What happened around 7,000 years ago?


What happened [to us humans] around 7,000 years ago?

I'm trying to appreciate the significance of this mystery - maybe it's too big for us to fully comprehend.
Ray D
N.b. on same subject, we'd found earlier myths & legends (maybe scroll up/down) - RD


EGYPT (compared to later, but still more primitive surrounding cultures).
"No such `pre-history' is convincingly traceable for Egyptian writing.  On present evidence, admittedly sparse and possibly very misleading, it appears to come into use almost `ready-made', as it were"
pp. 111 & 112 `Egyptian Hieroglyphs' - by W V Davies. (1990 - The Trustees of The British Museum)

"Moreover, every aspect of Egyptian knowledge seems to have been complete at the very beginning.  The sciences, artistic and architectural techniques and the hieroglyphic system show virtually no sign of a period of `development'; indeed, many of the achievements of the earliest dynasties were never surpassed or even equalled later on.  This astonishing fact is readily admitted by orthodox Egyptologists, but the magnitude of the mystery it poses is skilfully understated, while its many implications go unmentioned."
John Anthony West, in `Serpent in the Sky' [http://www.jawest.net/]

SUMER (as a novel `isolate' culture with unique language and technology).
"Sumerian culture appears to have appeared as a fully formed civilization, with no pre-history."

"The Sumerians developed a complex system of metrology c. 4000 BC.  This metrology advanced resulting in the creation of arithmetic, geometry, and algebra.  From c. 2600 BC onwards, the Sumerians wrote multiplication tables on clay tablets and dealt with geometrical exercises and division problems.  The earliest traces of the Babylonian numerals also date back to this period.  The period c. 2700 - 2300 BC saw the first appearance of the abacus, and a table of successive columns which delimited the successive orders of magnitude of their sexagesimal number system.  The Sumerians were the first to use a place value numeral system.  There is also anecdotal evidence the Sumerians may have used a type of slide rule in astronomical calculations.  They were the first to find the area of a triangle and the volume of a cube."

"Examples of Sumerian technology include: the wheel, cuneiform, arithmetic and geometry, irrigation systems, Sumerian boats, lunisolar calendar, bronze, leather, saws, chisels, hammers, braces, bits, nails, pins, rings, hoes, axes, knives, lancepoints, arrowheads, swords, glue, daggers, waterskins, bags, harnesses, armor, quivers, war chariots, scabbards, boots, sandals, harpoons and beer."

"The Sumerians were among the first astronomers, mapping the stars into sets of constellations, many of which survived in the zodiac and were also recognized by the ancient Greeks.  They were also aware of the five planets that are easily visible to the naked eye."

"They invented and developed arithmetic by using several different number systems including a mixed radix system with an alternating base 10 and base 6.  This sexagesimal system became the standard number system in Sumer and Babylonia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 23:42:39 -0000
Subject: "TED PHILLIPS - The Physical Evidence for Unidentified Flying Objects


Nice matter-of-fact presentation from Ted Phillips (he was intro'd as having the best sense of humour in Ufology - not too difficult maybe?).

Cheers
Ray D
PS - set to open at 5 mins 50 secs to skip the intros - the first few minutes were most interesting to me; they cover the stats summaries


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_HhJUYhSY#t=5m50s
TED PHILLIPS - The Physical Evidence for Unidentified Flying Objects

This presentation is the result of a 38-year study of UFO landing reports involving the existence of physical evidence at the landing event. Statistically solid data involving definite patterns gleaned from the 3,000+ cases are presented. A close look at the most significant, well-documented, high strangeness events include witness testimony, photographs, on-site investigation and laboratory analysis of the resulting traces and residue found at the landing site. Included is a report on an area currently under investigation with activity has taken place over the past eight years. These sightings include close visual, photographic, video and physical evidence cases. Also presented is a detailed report on a project initiated 36 years ago by Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Ted Phillips which involves an ancient structure deep in a cavern in the High Tatra Mountains in Slovakia/Ukraine.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 05:59:59 -0000
Subject: Strange effects seen at Cape Canaveral launch


Well they came up with glib `explanations' but they couldn't explain why all these effects hadn't been seen (together) at lots of previous launches, and why they happened at this launch.
Ray


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxS9sJdq7T8#t=39m48s
Feb 11, 2010 - Strange effects seen at Cape Canaveral launch
from 39 mins to about 47 mins




Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 01:49:05 -0000
Subject: `US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers'


Soon as I saw this headline `US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers' it reminded of a great SF story by Pohl and Kornbluth which I read as a kid and was entranced by - here's the Wiki outline: (modern news item below it)
[No, I'm _not_ saying the US military is acting for an alien agenda - even so ...]
Ray D


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfbane_(novel)
Wolfbane is a science fiction novel by Frederik Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth, published in 1959. It was serialized in Galaxy in 1957, with illustrations by Wally Wood. In his review column for F&SF, Damon Knight selected the novel as one of the 10 best genre books of 1959.

Plot introduction
....
The global population has crashed to a hundred million, due largely to the radical climate changes that followed the arrival of the alien planet. Most of the surviving humans are 'Citizens,' passive people living lives bound up with elaborate social rituals, various styles of meditation, and carefully prescribed selflessness. This constraining lifestyle frequently causes Citizens to succumb to mental breakdowns and run 'amok,' attacking anyone within reach. Persons who commit this or any other crime face ritual execution.

A small minority of the population who retain their aggressive natures are referred to as 'Wolves.' They are considered to be a direct threat to the rest of society. These Wolves, however, generally see themselves as superior humans and refer to the Citizens as 'Sheep.' This labeling system is somewhat ironic, because the Wolves generally try to trick the Sheep into avoiding their settlements, while any Wolf who is caught by the Sheep is murdered.

The Pyramid aliens' motives are unknown, their only visible presence being a lone Pyramid perched atop a leveled-off Mount Everest and the transparent 'Eyes' which form over individuals who have supposedly attained or approached a state of meditative perfection or 'Nirvana.' Persons who reach this stage of meditation vanish from the world to an unknown destination.

Plot summary[edit]
...
Glenn Tropile is exposed as a Wolf while stealing bread. He escapes execution and is collected by a community of Wolves living in the town of Princeton. They find he doesn't entirely fit in there either, but hope he may get collected by an 'Eye', giving them a chance to measure this process in detail. This eventually happens and they find, as expected, that his disappearance was facilitated by the Pyramid on Everest. Glenn Tropile has been sent to the Pyramid's planet.

We then learn his fate. To the Pyramids, the human race is nothing more than a useful source of 'Components' for a complex world-machine devoted mostly to feeding these artificial and semi-organic beings. Tropile is suspended in a fluid-filled tank and 'wired in' to the vast computer system. Later, he is linked to seven other humans as a 'Snowflake' - eight minds joined together to facilitate more complex tasks than a single human Component could manage.

In this condition, Tropile wakes, manages to retain his sanity, and wakes the other humans. They eventually merge with one another to form a sophisticated collective mind. The freed Snowflake then spies on the Pyramids, finding that they have been traveling for some two million years, and have collected many species as Components, but seem locked in meaningless rituals surrounding an alien creature at the world's North Pole. They later realize that this is the last survivor of the race that created the Pyramids.
(more ...)

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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/20/us-military-cyborg-connecting-humans-computers
US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers
Researchers hope to develop a high-bandwidth, implantable neural interface to open the channel between the human brain and modern electronics
Cyborgs that can connect directly to computers are the future, according to the US military. Photograph: Maksim Kabakou / Alamy/Alamy
Samuel Gibbs | Wednesday 20 January 2016 12.21 GMT Last modified on Wednesday 20 January 2016 12.22 GMT

The US government is researching technology that it hopes will turn soldiers into cyborgs, allowing them to connect directly to computers.

The US military's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) has unveiled a research programme called Neural Engineering System Design (NESD) which aims to develop an implantable neural interface, connecting humans directly to computers.

Human-computer interfaces are not a new research topic, but most have been hampered by slow, limited control, providing movement of robotic prosthetics or allowing humans to input text or similar into a computer by concentrating on certain feelings or thoughts of motions.

Phillip Alvelda, NESD manager for Darpa, said: "Today's best brain-computer interface systems are like two supercomputers trying to talk to each other using an old 300-baud modem. Imagine what will become possible when we upgrade our tools to really open the channel between the human brain and modern electronics."

At the moment, human-computer interfaces connect a large number of neurons at a time - somewhere between 100 and 1,000 - to a machine. Darpa aims to refine the technology so as to connect individual neurons. This would give much finer control, reduce noise and, in theory, speed up communications between a human and a computer.

The lofty goal will require breakthroughs in neuroscience, synthetic biology, low-power electronics, photonics, medical device manufacturing and packaging, as well as clinical testing, according to the research agency. While anything funded via Darpa has the end goal of a military application, human-computer interfaces are currently standing in the way of advanced civil applications, not least the replacement of lost limbs, restoration of sight and other senses, as well as the control of disease.

The NESD programme ties into the Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies (Brain) initiative launched by Barack Obama in 2013, which pledged $100m towards research aiming to cure or help brain disorders and brain damage.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:45:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Re: Linda Moulton Howe @ Los Lunas Dowsers 6-13-15


Right Choong - you might have a point there.  We know, from F.A.S. secrecy reports, that there are thousands of `secret' patents, and that's only those they've allowed to be put on paper - so that `secret science' could well be several/or many decades ahead of our public knowledge.

For instance, I'm fairly certain - from anecdotal evidence - that transmission of "voices into your head" has been perfected and tested on selected unknowing citizens on the street or even in their homes  (those were probably selected because they have a history of mental problems, so not only are they easily checked but no one will believe them).

So we could logically expect that they've also gone into creating visual illusions to go along with the audio - which might explain a lot of things, like you say.
Ray


Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:58:28 +0800

You know Ray, as the US is concerned all these has that "Signature" of secret ops., in the mid 90s when we were new to the Internet we don't see anomalies of this sort, in fact there are new manifestation in recent years that are non classical in every sense like morphing UFOs that either can turn into incomprehensible abstract geometrical forms and also those that has been filmed by the Joe public with handphone cameras "In situ" evidences that some of those weird craft can turn into a Boeing fooling everyone and also some which were seen with accompanied by sporadically visible "welding spots" around them, before vanishing that for this kind it is said to be holographic projection test, maybe that's true as those bright illogical "sparks" accompanying them at times could be energy nodes for the projection to be possible, and as for some of those being discussed in the video forum, bear in mind the US could have things that is 30s ahead from now, never underestimate them as I think that those acoustically related types could be US secret craft testing as how even in the veda there was already mentioned some vimanas are "melodious".

Choong

On 22-Dec-15 1:53 AM, Ray Dickenson wrote:

Glad Linda's looking into those `sky noises' because there's been an unaccountable silence from govt's - despite thousands of reports, recordings and videos from _all_ around the world.
BTW - seems Linda was alerted sometime after 2011, and the main mass of reports _did_ seem to start around then, but I had done some searching on my own account and had found some from 2009 (see link below Linda's video URL
Cheers
Ray D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrRdmo4s58#t=17m49s
Linda Moulton Howe @ Los Lunas Dowsers 6-13-15

Several summaries from Youtube
www.perceptions.couk.com/metamail96.html#noises5
scroll down for more short vids + info
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 23:18:59 -0000
Subject: Re: Sky noise 2016.


Thanks Choong - think this has been happening from about 2009 (scroll a bit) - they all seem to have a hollow echoing tone, although the pitches vary considerably.

Like you, early on I speculated about possible variations in the capacitance of the atmosphere making it act like a microphone AND as a loudspeaker, so generating a giant feedback howl, but that doesn't seem true after all this while.

Ray


From: Choong K*** Y***
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 4:12 PM
Subject: Sky noise 2016.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTOQvDzihTU
Singapore sky noise, minutes 5:00.

You see., there has to be an answer to anything in this world but they are not giving us a satisfying one for the sky noises which has started some years back and now is happening again.
...
Remember me saying that since the poles magnetism are more concentrated at the poles with spots of low density field strength all around the globe that things would be more alarmed if it happens to countries like equatorial Singapore or Malaysia?  It did occur in Singapore on January 13, seems to say that more stress is happening as field strength shouldn't be that strong in the equatorial unless the poles are moving too far South or North crossing this tropical region.

Choong




Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 18:19:46 -0000
Subject: "New Evidence for Ancient Egyptians in Ireland?


They're quite right to be indignant;  shallow "experts" have ignored or dismissed massive amounts of evidence, accumulating over many centuries, of close links between ancient Egypt and the western flanks of UK, originating in pre-Celtic times.  Much of it concerned Ireland (due to conspicuous legends and word-of-mouth inherited history) but also in Wales and extending northward to the Orkneys.

Below article there's a lot of evidence I'd already found, including modern DNA matching from pre-Aryan migration period.  BTW some evidence, esp. last three links (some w/photos), extend the ancient Egyptian traces as far as America.
Cheers
Ray D


http://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/thoth-s-storm-new-evidence-ancient-egyptians-ireland-005187
16 JANUARY, 2016 - 21:27 DAVID HALPIN
Thoth's Storm: New Evidence for Ancient Egyptians in Ireland?

When ancient Egypt and Ireland are spoken about in the same breath it usually results in the rolling of eyes, polite exits and the sound of murmurs citing pseudo-history and new age babble. At least, that used to be the case.

Recent discoveries in DNA research have added to already verified archaeological finds to present a scenario that is now more difficult to dismiss.
The Lia Fáil (Stone of Destiny) atop the Hill of Tara, County Meath, Ireland.

The Hill of Tara is one of Ireland's most ancient sacred sites. It is surrounded by many other Neolithic earthworks and tombs and although commonly associated with the Celts, the site pre-dates their arrival in Ireland by thousands of years. In legend it is the place where the Tuatha De Danann reigned. These were a God-like people who were said to have arrived in Ireland in mysterious ships and had magical powers.
A plate of The Dagda, representing the legendary members of the Tuatha Dé Danann. ( Public Domain )

Ritual Burials and Mysterious Bones
During recent and very controversial excavations near Tara a story emerged about a strange skeleton that had been found by workers digging at Lismullin Henge. Some thought it was the remains of a dog, others a badger. But, most curious of all was the claim of some witnesses that the remains were, in fact, those of an ape.

As Con Connor, Arch Druid of Ireland's Celtic Druid Temple writes, `Why was such a ritual burial in a royal site not cause for focused investigation?'
In her work, A Course of Severe and Arduous Trials , author Lynn Brunet writes that, "Furthermore, the Irish Masonic author, J. A. Penny notes that a skeleton of a Barbary ape had been found at Tara, the mythical center of Ireland and seat of the High King."

But why would there have been such strange bones buried at this site? These primates are not indigenous to Ireland and the archaeological complex surrounding Tara dates back thousands of years. If bones of an ape had been found at any point, do we have a precedent for such a burial at any other of Ireland's most ancient sacred places?

In fact we do. During excavations at Eimhain Macha (Navan Fort) in County Armagh, the skull of a Barbary ape was found. When it was carbon dated it was discovered to be roughly 2,500 years old. The question for many archaeologists was how it got to Ireland in the first place, but perhaps a more intriguing enquiry would investigate why.

The Irish-Egyptian Connection
One of the more controversial theories when it comes to the origins of the Irish people is a connection to ancient Egypt. Although there are many Irish legends connecting Tara and Egyptian royalty, these have been impossible to prove.

Legendary Lia Fáil - The Coronation of High Kings in Ancient Ireland
Scota: Mother of Scotland and Daughter of a Pharaoh
Viking beaters: Scots and Irish may have settled Iceland a century before Norsemen

One of the most intriguing examples of these proposals was the discovery of the skeleton of a 15-year-old boy at The Mound of the Hostages, near Tara, by Dr. Sean O Riordan of Trinity College. Carbon dating showed that the remains were roughly 3,800 years old. A necklace found with the skeleton was made of faience beads and matched similar Egyptian manufacture and design.

The Hill of Tara is an archaeological complex featuring many ancient monuments, such as the `Mound of Hostages', seen above. In tradition Hill of Tara is known as the seat of the High Kings of Ireland. (CC BY-SA 4.0 )

Scotia, Egyptian Royalty
There is also the famous legend of Queen Scotia, an Egyptian princess or queen, depending on which version of the legend you read, who was said to have arrived in Ireland in 1700 BC and was killed by the Tuatha De Danann in a great battle.

Her supposed grave is marked by a giant inscribed stone in County Kerry and its importance has led to local politicians calling for its preservation.
A 15th century depiction of Scotia's voyage from Egypt. ( Public Domain )

An interesting aside is that Scotia's grave is not far from the island of Skellig Michael, the site of a pre-Christian settlement and a later monastery.
According to the 11th-century Lebor Gabála É renn (Book of Invasions), Milesius, a great leader of one of Ireland's invaders lost two of his sons nearby in 1400 BC when a magical storm caused by the Tuatha De Danann submerged their ship.

References:
Smith, Charles. `Ancient and Present State of the County of Kerry'. 1756
Rincon, Paul. `Ancient DNA sheds light on Irish Origins'. 2015. BBC.com [Online] Available at: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35179269
Lara M. Cassidy, et al. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America. `Neolithic and Bronze Age migration to Ireland and establishment of the insular Atlantic genome' - PNAS 2015 : 1518445113v1-201518445. [Online] Available here: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/12/22/1518445113
Dictionary: English-to-Hieroglyphs. 2015. Hieroglyphs.net [Online] Available at: http://hieroglyphs.net/0301/cgi/lookup.pl?ty=tr&ch=D&cs=1
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`Perceptions' site refs:
the-goddess.html
metamail93.html
metamail97.html#i-o-t
green-man-search.html#pre-aryan

metamail101.html#sumer
lost-cities.html
magic4.html#btw2

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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Evidence for Ancient Egyptians in Ireland?


I remember when as a schoolboy my parents taking me to Tara in Ireland.
It became an educational holiday. The Egyptian influence was well known. So, it has been around for decades.
Roy
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 22:25:59 -0000
Subject: Re Re: "New Evidence for Ancient Egyptians in Ireland?


Hello Roy, can envy you that experience.  All my info is second or third hand, but the stories linking Ireland with `exiled' or travelling ancient Egyptian royalty are many and various.  Perhaps more relevant today are the blood group / DNA matches, and language analysis (from `Myths and Legends of the Celtic Race' by TW Rolleston, last edition 1919) revealing that:
`the pre-Aryan [ie. pre-Celtic] idioms which still live in Welsh and Irish were derived from a language allied to the Egyptians'.
and
"Rhys and Brynmor Jones find that the African origin - at least proximately - of the primitive population of Great Britain and Ireland is strongly suggested. It is here shown that the Celtic languages preserve in their syntax the Hamitic, and especially the Egyptian type"
and
(footnote) `The Welsh People' pp. 616-664 where the subject is fully discussed in an appendix by Prof. J Morris Jones:- "The pre-Aryan idioms which still live in Welsh and Irish were derived from a language allied to Egyptian and the Berber tongues"

Ray





Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 23:41:44 -0000
Subject: Human Minds - Alien Wills?


Human Minds - Alien Wills?

Maybe treat this as way-out speculation, or a roundabout way of saying `Listen to your innner voice - just make sure it's yours'.

Although we're much too close to things to realize it, a strange pattern emerges when you examine the total human condition and history, compared with the history and present conditions of the rest of Earth life, especially those of the higher mammals and birds etc - many of which exhibit advanced consciousness;  i.e. having a sense of `fairness', and of deep affections for others of their species.

Contrariwise, humankind seems locked in a dichotomy whereby some are humane, protecting women and children and dealing equitably with neighbours, while others are murderous maniacs dedicated to abuse and slaughter, for greedy profit or domination.

What can explain this unique division of an entire species, just when it had achieved an evolutionary zenith of intelligent consciousness?

[ A R Wallace had opined that `natural selection' (his discovery) is elevated to select higher motives and attributes once a certain level of consciousness is attained.  See uef/wallace.html ]

It's almost as if there are external agencies watching life on Earth, and intervening - for their own entertainment or study - as soon as one species developed minds capable of being interfered with or influenced.

And in fact lots of evidence, from ancient and modern history, has been amassed, much of it reviewed by folk who seem to share some of my thoughts - maybe the most conspicuous and eminent being Jacques Vallée, who made one of his many `trickster' comments about a 500 year-old mystery re: the `Sylphs of Cardan' - reported here metamail99.html#sylph2

Having considered these matters for quite a while, some years ago tentatively made a page of speculation which I kept purposely vague about methods or motivations of these possible `visitors' (or experimenters).  It's at uef/friend-foe.html and, as you can see, later events and announcements sort-of indicate that others (inc. the Vatican's science advisors) secretly might have similar suspicions.

Cheers
Ray D

PS - whether the tricksters come from elsewhere in the universe or have always been with us (maybe deep below Earth's surface, as Vallée part-suggested) is a matter for conjecture, as evidence is hard to get. - RD


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 01:36:49 +0800
Subject: Re: Human Minds - Alien Wills?
From: Choong K*** Y***


Hi Ray, maybe its time to consider the probability of an avatar, sort of doppelganger custom tuned for each individual in existence :-) .

Choong




Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:41:04 -0000
Subject BBC and a so-called `paradox'


Ha!  Here's an early quote (from me) about the so-called "Fermi paradox":
QUOTE
"that so-called paradox has been used by `skepti-bunkers' as an argument against the existence of ETs or of any intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe.

Their argument rests on some unassailable logic (Fermi's), followed by shaky assumptions and an even shakier proclamation:
Logic
If intelligent life has arisen elsewhere, then logically -
1) it is most likely to have arisen in many places;
2) it is very improbable that humans were the first;
3) it is extremely likely that some groups are tens or hundreds of millions of years more advanced than us.

Assumptions
1) that such advanced groups would have explored our galaxy;
2) that such exploration would mean Earth had been visited many times;
3) that the `explorers' would have made themselves known to us, either directly or by leaving message(s) to be found by us (because each `visit' might be at intervals of more than a million years);

Proclamation
"We say there is no evidence of extraterrestrial visitors ... therefore intelligent life cannot exist elsewhere in the Universe"

The falsity of that claim and of the whole `paradox' can be seen if you ask two questions:
"Can gnats, ticks and bacteria `be aware of' or `understand' the presence of humans who might occasionally walk around / over them?"
and
"Do humans bother to `communicate with' or to `leave messages for' any gnats, ticks or bacteria observed during a country walk?"

I.e. - a senior US astronomer / astrophysicist recently said that if intelligent life exists anywhere else in the Universe, statistical logic says they would probably see us as "lower than we think of bacteria".
ENDQUOTE

That's because, statistically, we can expect any ET or alien civilizations to be up to four BILLION years older than ours - which makes a hell of a difference.
Cheers
Ray D


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hkz33
Episode 1
Helen Keen's It Is Rocket Science, Series 2 Episode 1 of 4

Helen Keen stars alongside Peter Serafinowicz and Susy Kane for a second series of the factually-correct but funny exploration of the science and history of space travel.

This week examines the Fermi paradox - if the universe is really infinite it should contain infinite life, and yet we have had no contact from alien civilisations.





Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 01:06:31 -0000
Subject: Linda and Phoenix


In this interview Linda examines the Phoenix case (if you don't remember, the huge dark triangle floated silently over the countryside - from NW to SE - for an hour or two, then the military rushed to drop flares to give a cover story - only two or three hours too late; then Governor Symington lied and mocked but later confessed he'd lied; the military never confessed but everyone knows they lied).

She thinks that was when the US Gov't's nerve cracked and they battened down the hatches.  Thinking about that time - and reviewing the videos of the day - am inclined to agree with her.
Cheers
Ray D
PS - it's set to start at 22 minutes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zRFxPlQkDI#t=22m
LINDA MOULTON HOWE: - DARK JOURNALIST





Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 21:38:59 -0000
Subject: Remember when UK's UFO files were "released"


Remember when UK's UFO files were "released" some years ago?  Wrong - we were lied to.

What the UK Gov't and M-o-D did was retroactively change references like "UFO" or "flying saucer" in their files to "UAP" (unidentified aerial phenomenon" - so they could answer F-o-I requests for UFO / flying saucer info by saying "Nope - don't have any files on those".

And guess which files they chose to conceal by these underhand cheating methods?  Yup, the files on the Rendlesham / Bentwaters happenings.

Here Linda exposes it all - it's a bit complex, be warned. {set to start at 51 min 30 secs]
Cheers
Ray D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NcWGC028I#t=51m30s
LINDA MOULTON HOWE: ET SURVIVAL





Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:19:22 -0000
Subject: "The Materiality of Magic


Like someone said (approx) `Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear as magic'.
Cheers
Ray


http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Materiality-Magic-artifactual-investigation/dp/1785700103
The subject of `magic' has long been considered peripheral and sensationalist, the word itself having become something of an academic taboo.

However, beliefs in magic and the rituals that surround them are extensive - as are their material manifestations - and to avoid them is to ignore a prevalent aspect of cultures worldwide, from prehistory to the present day.

The Materiality of Magic addresses the value of the material record as a resource in investigations into magic, ritual practices, and popular beliefs.

The chronological and geographic focuses of the papers presented here vary from prehistory to the present-day, including numinous interpretations of fossils and ritual deposits in Bronze Age Europe; apotropaic devices in Roman and Medieval Britain; the evolution of superstitions and ritual customs - from the `voodoo doll' of Europe and Africa to a Scottish `wishing-tree'; and an exploration of spatiality in West African healing practices.

The objectives of this collection of nine papers are two-fold. First, to provide a platform from which to showcase innovative research and theoretical approaches in a subject which has largely been neglected within archaeology and related disciplines, and, secondly, to redress this neglect.

The papers were presented at the 2012 Theoretical Archaeology Group (TAG) conference in Liverpool.
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:54:05 -0000
Subject : Forbidden Science


Last night, beginning to re-read Roger Penrose's `Emperors New MInd' (where he admits that modern science isn't all that confident about the `laws of physics'), got to thinking about two areas where modern science is frankly afraid to investigate

And began to think those two apparently widely separated subjects:
i) the paranormal or occult and ii) the NASA / Russian space films plus modern airliners' UFO encounters, might be linked - by the basic forces underlying and maybe even by identical `trickster' motivations.

i) Paranormal : don't want to get mired in talk of `magic' or `supernatural entities' so will concentrate on the evidence, recorded over many centuries, of observed events which break the laws of physics.  That is, `haunting' and `poltergeist' events which feature loud noises without a source, levitation and movement of objects, artifacts or rocks / stones / gravel plus various liquids.  These are attested all the way to the present day, with large numbers of respectable professional people as witnesses, including doctors, police and of course news reporters.
Some details at ghosty.html#polt

ii) Space Phenomena + UFO Encounter `New Science' Effects
NASA films (plus maybe a Russian one?) which show `craft' or `entities' not only moving very fast in near-Earth space, but also making `instantaneous' turns of more than 90 degrees:  which is impossible for any human craft with living occupants - the laws of inertia would smash the craft and pulverize the occupants.
Summarized (with notes and comments) at ufo-uap.html#yu-tu

Here's Google searches for some interesting clips
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=STS+48+Incidents
STS 48 Incident
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=STS-75+tether+incident
STS-75 tether incident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWqQd6Ey4k#t=33m12s
The smoking gun 1 Nederlands

Then we have `Black Box' Cockpit Recordings - particularly one where an airline captain watched an approaching UFO affecting his gyro compasses - i.e. that's `inertial compasses'.
As Dr Richard Haines (ex-NASA) commented re: case of airliner's gyro compasses being affected:  "We don't know how to do that".  Again, breaking the `laws of inertia'.
See www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWri3WaLk0#t=5m5s (5mins 5sec in); and www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrBPZDLRy0#t=17m (17 mins in)
BTW the effect was to turn the airliner towards the incoming UFO.

All these phenomena are clearly `true' (by rules of courtroom evidence) but are studiously ignored by modern science - rather like the `professors' who refused to look through Galileo's telescope, for fear they might see something "forbidden".
Cheers
Ray D





Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:05:40 -0000
Subject: "Self sustaining, without any base or support"


"Self sustaining, without any base or support"

Hi Choong, long time ago think you mentioned you had some respect for Jain reasoning and ethics - well, recently saw a short extract from Jain philosophy quoted by a respected senior Western scientist in one of his books - so looked it up.
Here's the full paragraph:
Ray

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism_and_non-creationism#Jain_opposition_to_creationism
Jain scriptures reject God as the creator of universe. 12th century Acarya Hemacandra puts forth the Jain view of universe in Yogasastra as thus [i] -

"This universe is not created nor sustained by anyone;
It is self sustaining, without any base or support"


Besides scriptural authority, Jains also resorted to syllogism and deductive reasoning to refute the creationist theories. Various views on divinity and universe held by the vedics, samkhyas, mimimsas, Buddhists and other school of thoughts were analysed, debated and repudiated by the various Jain Acaryas. However the most eloquent refutation of this view is provided by Acarya Jinasena in Mahapurana as thus [j]

"Some foolish men declare that creator made the world. The doctrine that the world was created is ill advised and should be rejected.
If God created the world, where was he before the creation? If you say he was transcendent then and needed no support, where is he now?

How could God have made this world without any raw material? If you say that he made this first, and then the world, you are faced with an endless regression.

If you declare that this raw material arose naturally you fall into another fallacy, For the whole universe might thus have been its own creator, and have arisen quite naturally.

If God created the world by an act of his own will, without any raw material, then it is just his will and nothing else - and who will believe this silly nonsense?

If he is ever perfect and complete, how could the will to create have arisen in him? If, on the other hand, he is not perfect, he could no more create the universe than a potter could.

If he is form-less, action-less and all-embracing, how could he have created the world? Such a soul, devoid of all modality, would have no desire to create anything.

If he is perfect, he does not strive for the three aims of man, so what advantage would he gain by creating the universe?

If you say that he created to no purpose because it was his nature to do so, then God is pointless. If he created in some kind of sport, it was the sport of a foolish child, leading to trouble.

If he created because of the karma of embodied beings [acquired in a previous creation] He is not the Almighty Lord, but subordinate to something else

If out of love for living beings and need of them he made the world, why did he not make creation wholly blissful free from misfortune?

If he were transcendent he would not create, for he would be free: Nor if involved in transmigration, for then he would not be almighty. Thus the doctrine that the world was created by God makes no sense at all,

And God commits great sin in slaying the children whom he himself created. If you say that he slays only to destroy evil beings, why did he create such beings in the first place?

Good men should combat the believer in divine creation, maddened by an evil doctrine. Know that the world is uncreated, as time itself is, without beginning or end, and is based on the principles, life and rest. Uncreated and indestructible, it endures under the compulsion of its own nature."

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 17:10:43 -0000
Subject: Political Sci-Propaganda Aims (Mind Control)


The other day was forced to re-examine a `psychological study' article in the news for making rather sweeping claims: i.e. of discovering markers of higher or lower intelligence in (western) populations.

Statistical IQs
Note: Apparently Carl Sagan had a record of President Eisenhower "expressing astonishment and alarm on discovering that fully half of all Americans have below average intelligence."  But that was using raw statistics - which say that 49% of the human race are (statistically but not "really") of below `average intelligence' - see damned_lies.html#ncu for the details.

You can see that statistical statement was actually false - as outlined in that `damned lies' page - because:
i) - there are different forms of `IQ', some only familiarity (training and education), while others are innate (dexterity, spatial awareness etc.), and all will independently vary over time;
ii) - in reality the bulk (50% to 80%?) of the population are rather closely grouped in the middle of the statistical curve and, because the natural attributes of IQ are constantly changing, that 50% to 80% are roughly equal in generalized IQs - measured over time.
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Actual IQs and Behaviour - summarized at magic2.html#more1
We already know (or should do) that fearfulness + dogmatism are linked to lower IQs, and you can see why:  i.e. people who don't understand what's going on are (rightly) timorous, and are going to cling to any `beliefs' that help them feel more secure.  Which is why studies find that anxious (lower IQ) people are more likely to turn to religious extremism / fundamentalism.
See http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/99/1/148/

Conversely those secure (if not `safe') in their environments, from teens onwards, tend to think freely and non-traditionally  i.e. can ignore superstitions and `tribal beliefs' (incidentally they - the males anyway - tend to be more monogamous than less intelligent folk).
See http://spq.sagepub.com/content/73/1/33
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Long-term Distortions of Statistics / Corruptions of Psychological Studies
A few years ago became aware of members of the (fake) psychology / psychiatry profession dangling bait for folk who maybe thought more freely than the mainstream.  It seems those `studies' were designed so that non-conformists could then be labelled as `weirdos', whereas, as seen above, in reality non-conformists / freethinkers tend to be more intelligent.

See "Request for participation in Psychology dissertation study (University of Northampton) on UFO belief"
http://ufoupdateslist.com/2012/jan/m05-008.shtml

and my immediate response at:
http://ufoupdateslist.com/2012/jan/m08-001.shtml

Psychology/psychiatry has a long history of corrupt subservience to political / police-state interests and even now has virtually no real facts behind any of its claims.  See subindex.html#psych - i.e. it's a fake science.
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Revealing Clues in Latest Attempt
The latest attempt, noted in intro at top, was happily reported by mainstream media as "Study shows link between stupidity & bullsh*t", the abstract was titled "On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound bullsh*t" (lead author Pennycook) http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf.

As you see Pennycook has rather slyly included all folk interested in "alternative medicine" or "ET/UFO phenomena" or "conspiracy ideation" or "paranormal phenomena" in the same bracket as low IQ superstitious / tribal believers and fundamentalists.

Why did Pennycook do this? - When we know, from all above, that an interest in "alternative medicine" or "ET/UFO phenomena" or "conspiracy ideation" or "paranormal phenomena" is non-traditional thinking and a sure sign of higher intelligence?

Well a clue is in his recent past, another `study' which equally slyly (and falsely) labels any skeptic of "global warming" as less believable than the IPCC wafflers and liars - reported (avidly) in https://scientiaportal.wordpress.com/tag/text-analysis/ and in abstract form at http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10584-015-1475-2

We know that's all false since real scientists have been protesting against the IPCC's wild claims and rigged figures for quite a while - see http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm#Message5976 and http://www.petitionproject.org/frequently_asked_questions.php for details of some of those real scientists.

N.b. most of the IPCC proponents are political appointees, not real scientists.  There is NO science consensus on climate change - i.e. we don't even know for sure what is happening over the last hundred or so years - see try-logic.txt for the considered opinion of "one of the world greatest climatologists" (scroll to bottom).
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Conclusion re: Political Sci-Propaganda Aims (Mind Control)
We can tentatively conclude that one of the objectives of the `Powers-that-Be', who today control the funding, tenure and directing of science, is to marginalize any intelligent folk, free-thinkers and questioners, even more than now, by corrupt campaigns of fake psychological / psychiatric mud-slinging.

Cheers
Ray D

BTW - D'you think Richard Feynman had foresight, as well as genius?





Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 14:43:48 -0000
Subject: Re: "Study shows link between stupidity & bullsh*t


On re-re-reading that article, it's so sloppily written that I now quote the Washington Post version, which still misleadingly conflates some contradictory (and maybe untrue) terms and conclusions.

So here's the PDF abstract, and even that is vague in specifications and makes wide-ranging (and unjustified IMHO) conclusions - so looked up one of the authors and find it's a purely `psychological' study, and from his background (see his similarly pejorative `study' on climate change), it seems fairly clear to me he's busy earning brownie points from the establishment.

By comparison those recent studies - shown at magic2.html#more1 - are more specific and aimed at clearer results, but even they were reported by shoddy media hacks using non-scientific political labels (which are meaningless since terms like `liberal' and `conservative' have widely different meanings across the English-speaking world).

Ray

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 00:29:18 -0000
Subject: "Study shows link between stupidity & bullsh*t


Yup, [on re-reading, this article is a bit sloppily written, maybe pefer the PDF abstract], although the apparent gist of it is hardly a secret.

Quite a few recent [more accurate?] studies show `easy believers' (and dogmatic skeptics - same thing really) are linked to lower intelligence and more fearfulness.  Check the headlines (and abstracts) at magic2.html#more1

Cheers
Ray


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/01/the-kinds-of-people-who-confuse-total-nonsense-for-something-really-deep/
Why people think total nonsense is really deep By Roberto A. Ferdman | December 1

Words can be inspiring, even when they're arranged into vague, fancy-sounding sequences that seem deep but say nothing.

Take the sentence "wholeness quiets infinite phenomena." It's complete and utter nonsense. In fact, it was randomly generated by a Web site. And many might have seen this immediately, or realized it after thinking it through.

But the truth is that a surprising number of people would likely have called the bogus statement profound.

"A lot of people are prone to what I call pseudo-profound bulls***," said Gordon Pennycook, a doctorate student at the University of Waterloo who studies why some people are more easily duped than others.

"Wholeness quiets infinite phenomena" was one of many randomly generated sentences Pennycook, along with a team of researchers at the University of Waterloo, used in a new four-part study put together to gauge how receptive people are to nonsense. Pennycook used a Web site -- which refers to itself with an expletive for the sentences it produces -- to generate the language samples.

In the first part, they asked nearly 300 hundred participants to rate the profundity of randomly generated sentences on a scale from 1 to 5. Not only did the statements receive an average score of 2.6, meaning that they viewed them as somewhat profound, but a quarter of participants gave them a score of 3 or higher, indicating that they considered them to be profound or even very profound.

In the second, Pennycook used real-world examples of pseudo-profound phrases, plucking tweets from Deepak Chopra's Twitter account that others have called vague or empty (like: "nature is a self-regulating ecosystem of awareness), along with the randomly generated sentences used in the first exercise. And the results were virtually the same. "They basically thought the tweets were just as profound as the randomly generated sentences," said Pennycook. "So they were equally bad at seeing the B.S. in both."

In the third and fourth, mundane statements (like "Most people enjoy some sort of music") and popular aphorisms widely considered profound (like "A river cuts through a rock, not because of its power but its persistence") were included to make sure that people weren't merely branding everything as profound. While on average people tended to rate the truly profound (or at least comparatively profound) statements highest, many people did not. In fact, a quarter of the participants rated the pseudo-profound phrases the most profound of all.

The precise reasons that people see profundity in vague buzzwords or syntactic but completely random sentences are unknown. Some people might not realize the reason they don't understand something is simply because there is nothing to understand. Or they might just approach things they hear and read less skeptically.

There are also a few characteristics that seem to correlate with those who are more prone to pseudo-profound language. Specifically, the researchers tested willingness to accept pseudo profound statements along with a host of other personality characteristics. As they describe:

Those more receptive to bull**** are less reflective, lower in cognitive ability (i.e., verbal and fluid intelligence, numeracy), are more prone to ontological confusions [beliefs in things for which there is no empirical evidence (i.e. that prayers have the ability to heal)] and conspiratorial ideation, are more likely to hold religious and paranormal beliefs, and are more likely to endorse complementary and alternative medicine.

"I would say that a lot of people are just far too open to everything," said Pennycook. "They aren't skeptical or critical enough of what they hear and read."

Pennycook isn't the first to take an interest in the proliferation and effectiveness of bull - many others, including Harry Frankfurt, a philosopher at Princeton, who contemplated the significance of the term in contemporary society in his 2005 essay and book 'On Bull****," have done the same. But he is rather unique in his approach. While others have focused on the intentions of the people selling the fluff, Pennycook is instead honing in on the things that seem to make people more vulnerable in the face of it.

"This is all still very preliminary, but the real significance of this paper, the point of the study, isn't just that it shows many people are receptive to things they shouldn't be; it's also that it demonstrates there is indeed a good way to measure how receptive someone is to B.S.," he said.

In other words, if you want to figure out how easily taken a friend is, you might want to start by asking them to look total nonsense in the face and tell you what they see.
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:07:43 -0000
Subject: Robert Bauval - a character and maybe more


Excellent in-depth chat from Robert Bauval - an impressive chap (ex-engineer) who has insights into our human ability to confer, and read, meanings into `talismans' of various kinds.  [In fact the first 20 or so minutes is a delightful lead-up, thru a brief life-history, to a metaphysical revelation.]
Ray D
PS - like James P Hogan I tend to respect opinions of engineers, rather than the pompous career-serving pronouncements of priestly academic `scientists' acting for political and corporate interests.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3lZAkcCA70
Ancient Egypt Star Religion - Robert Bauval [FULL VIDEO]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ti8ZMACJ78
Ancient Aliens TV Presentation - Robert Bauval Workshop





Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:40:32 -0000
Subject: Mystery of the Sphinx


Have seen some of this evidence from John Anthony West before but hadn't linked the megalithic build of the Sphinx and its temple (all unadorned by any typical `Egyptian' scripts or decorations), with the similar stark + plain megalithic build of the Osireion, at Abydos.

Taken together they convince me that the `earlier' civilization, which both sides say is missing from the record, was actually that of the Great Goddess people - a megalith-building `empire' which stretched from the Mediterranean westerly to Orkney (western Scotland) and easterly to the Indus Valley (Pakistan / N India), and exactly in the time frame these folk attribute to the Sphinx:  maybe nine or ten thousand years ago.

They were matriarchal and matrilinear - as was descendant dynastic Egypt (so royal Egyptian males had to marry their sisters or nieces to acquire `real royalty'), and again the Great Goddess folk always venerated bulls (they had bulls' heads and `votive horns' in their temples and atop their buildings) as did the later dynastic Egyptians - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apis_(deity)#History_of_worship

In addition, the really ancient pictures and carvings of Egyptians show the early dynastic folk as Asiatic looking, with almond eyes and high cheekbones - which raises another question of ancient lineages, since some Etruscan nobles' family tombs show them as similarly Asiatic looking.
Ray D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbUsGnMUH2Y
Mystery of the Sphinx





Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:23:16 -0000
Subject: "Evidence shows earliest Americans arrived 6,000 years earlier than believed


Well, well.  If we check Youtube for `Forbidden Archeology' we find that the first folk to deny "Clovis first" were pilloried and had their careers ruined.
Ray


http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113410891/evidence-shows-earliest-americans-arrived-6000-years-earlier-than-believed-111915/
NOVEMBER 19, 2015
Evidence shows earliest Americans arrived 6,000 years earlier than believed

New evidence uncovered at the Monte Verde site in southern Chile has now provided further evidence that the earliest known Americans became established in South America even earlier than previously thought.

For many decades, it was believed that the Americas were first populated some 13,000 years ago by big-game hunters from Asia, known as the Clovis people. Evidence of their culture was especially apparent in their distinctly-shaped, pointed stone projectiles, known as Clovis points. However, in more recent decades, the Monte Verde site in Chile revealed that, in fact, some American human populations pre-dated the arrival of the Clovis people.
...
Significantly older than Clovis people
The most exciting find, though, is the age of these new materials: According to radiocarbon dating, they range from 14,000 to nearly 19,000 years old - significantly older than the Clovis people.

These dates mean that the nomads lived in a challenging era. Monte Verde at that time was a sandur - a plain formed sediment deposited by glaciers - because the last Ice Age was in its death throes. The region was still quite cold year-round - and a volcano was active nearby.
(more ...)
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:06:11 -0000
Subject: Re: "The 1897 Aurora, Texas, UFO incident


Right George, tried that search and was a bit surprised to see so many items on `Soft Disclosure' - hadn't seen that one creeping up.

Seems some folk think it might be happening, while others think it's just one more `bait and switch' gambit - after many earlier ones.
Ray


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:31:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "The 1897 Aurora, Texas


Search for articles on: - China and Russia are tired of waiting on America for "Soft Disclosure On We Are Not Alone" issues...
It appears the reason for so many Galactic or UFO on TV and movies...
George

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Date:Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:57:37 -0000
Subject: "The 1897 Aurora, Texas, UFO incident


An interesting little clip from a longer MUFON video (sorry - later found it's been removed so have put substitute):
like the guy said (paraphrased) `Back in 1897, people [in TX] accepted that they were surrounded by mysteries of various sorts - it's only today that we supposedly can't tolerate mysteries and aren't allowed to know about them'.
Ray


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMGAJUhudqU
Ufo Documentary 2015 - UFO Files - UFO Crash in Aurora Texas in 1897
also see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident

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