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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:00:26 -0000
Subject: "Proof Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death

Slightly interesting because I've read (and still re-read when I want to be confused) a good, apparently perfectly accurate book which states the same thing, that there is no death for a conscious mind, only from a slightly different perspective - that of analysis of the status of `perceptions' and/or `consciousness'.

It's `The Serial Universe' by J.W. Dunne, a down-to-earth type of guy - military / engineering / aviation designer:

Here's the `Nature' review (1934), which shows it was taken seriously by the science establishment of the time -

Ray D
Proof Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death

A book titled "Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe" contains a notion that life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever.

The author of this publication, scientist Dr. Robert Lanza who was voted the 3rd most important scientist alive by the NY Times, has no doubts that this is possible.

Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of Advanced Cell Technology Company.

Before he has been known for his extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.

But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics, quantum mechanics and astrophysics.
This explosive mixture has given birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been preaching ever since.

Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness are fundamental to the universe. It is consciousness that creates the material universe, not the other way around.

Lanza points to the structure of the universe itself, and that the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be fine-tuned for life, implying intelligence existed prior to matter.

He also claims that space and time are not objects or things, but rather tools of our animal understanding.

Lanza says that we carry space and time around with us "like turtles with shells." meaning that when the shell comes off (space and time), we still exist.
(more at page ... inc. multiverse theory)

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 20:50:40 -0000
Subject: Bonfire Night

Well, just had my annual `bonfire night' firework celebration.  In UK it's often labelled `Guy Fawkes Night' due to the assignment of 5th Nov as remembrance of the Gunpowder Plot to blow up parliament, allegedly by a Roman Catholic cabal.

However in light of many historical misappropriations by incoming elites down the ages, I suspect early November was already being used for bonfires, both as an annual `clean-up' of leaves, rubbish etc. and maybe as remnant of a pagan seasonal festival.

I.e.  Similarly the early Xtian church was forced to assign their `big day' as Dec. 25th, because most of the ancient world was observing the 24th as `Mother's Night' (of the Great Goddess in matriarch form) and the next day as `Her Day' and the New Year - probably because the 25th was originally the solstice (rebirth of life).  See metamail95.html#xmas-goddess for Cohen's comments.

Likewise the Xtians' second biggest day _had_ to be put onto `Easter;  because much of the world was still using it to celebrate Eostre: the Great Goddess in maiden form (Spring - fertility of animals & crops).  Despite the Vatican's pressures the northern countries of Europe kept the old (pagan) name of the festival.


Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:39:01 -0000
Subject: "National Science Standards Reflect a Growing Anxiety on the Part of Evolution Advocates

Yup, seems reasonable to me - So why isn't it done?

In most leading-edge subjects - cosmology (black holes, dark matter, dark energy); particle physics (standard model - fake Higgs boson); and of course biology (Darwinian evolution - which most informed professionals now know is untrue) - all that is taught, or allowed to be discussed, is the mainstream dogma.

That's not science.  Do they want the next generation to be unthinking robot minds?
The documents produced by the AAAS and NAS, Science for All Americans and the National Science Education Standards, are persuasive in explaining the importance of critical thinking. Science for All Americans notes:

In science classrooms, it should be the normal practice for teachers to raise such questions as: How do we know? What is the evidence? What is the argument that interprets the evidence? Are there alternative explanations or other ways of solving the problem that could be better? The aim should be to get students into the habit of posing such questions and framing answers.

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:42 PM

Hi Ray,

Not only is it likely that the next generation will be robot minds - both sides of the Atlantic - but the time is almost here when the school leaving generation can barely write out their names so uneducated are they.

What an abysmal situation!


Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:58:19 -0000
Subject: Re: "National Science Standards Reflect a Growing Anxiety on the Part of Evolution Advocates

Right Roy,
I recall a few years ago an eminent German chap saying that the education system in Germany had similarly degenerated to rote-learning, and that as a result the folk emerging from those schools were only fit to be civil servants.

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:16:20 -0000
Subject: "Human Intelligence on Decline for the First Time in Human History

One _could_ think lowering IQs is what gov'ts around the world actually want!

However I'm quite sceptical about IQ testing - once took copies of a real IQ test (pattern recognition and re-alignments etc - no academic knowledge involved) into my work and gave them to a bunch of tech apprentices and a few tech officers to do during Sunday lunch break (we were working overtime on a project).

They all scored high: 130's to 150's, yet I doubt they would've been rated so highly on standard IQ tests.

And we've already discussed the apparently cyclical rise and fall of group IQs around the world, see China 3,000 yrs ago, then Greek/Roman, then Arab/Persian, then Europeans (listed and linked at metamail94.html#aliens), so maybe our 500 yr `ascendancy' is ending.
Study: Human Intelligence on Decline for the First Time in Human History

Paris, 01.04.2015 - In a groundbreaking study conducted by Griffiths and Wright and published this week in Mentiri, the Journal of Human Intelligence, psychologists have identified 2015 as the first year in which human intelligence appears to have declined rather than increased.

This follows a disturbing 2012 finding that life expectancy in the United States had, for some segments of the population, declined for the first time on record.

Wright, speaking to press in Patterson, NY, attributes the decline to a sort of reverse Flynn Effect. `The Flynn effect is a tendency for scores on IQ tests to increase over time, at a rate of just about 3 points per decade. In the last decade, though, the average score has gone down by just about half a point.'

Asked about possible causes, she said, "It would be pure guesswork right now. We do have a mild correlation with the rise of cable news and a more definitive correlation to smart phones. But correlations cannot be used to talk much about causation. The decline also correlates to a rise in sightings of Bigfoot and reports of UFO abductions. We might just as well say Bigfoot is making us dumb, or that Fox News causes alien abductions."

Griffiths was even more cagey. "We don't even have a theory," she said.

Since this is the first time the effect has ever been observed, it is impossible to note whether it is just a blip or a more-permanent fixture of life as a human. Dubbed the `Bowers Effect,' it could be accelerating or completely reverse itself in a year or two.

Edge Mujik, commenting from the University of Texas, Austin, was less cagey.

"IQ tests don't really measure intelligence at all," he said, "but how well one can solve certain kinds of problems." Flynn calls this adaptation to modernity. That's what the Flynn effect is. "We can easily say that as access to higher education declines because of cost - and the cost of transferring education from the public sphere as a public good to the individual as a commodity - one could argue that, then, the well-known relationship between education and IQ test scores will start to assert itself. It's really no surprise."

Mujik added: "Just spend five minutes looking at our television programming - the stuff people will believe. Mermaids and Amish mafia. And the people we vote for. No, I'm not at all surprised by this finding."

Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 06:42:45 +0100
Subject: "To Iceland in search of elves and trolls

Had close Danish friends and colleagues a while ago - heard a lot about how some still go for belief in `nature spirits' etc. (and how they were only eventually `christianised' at sword-point, by some over zealous convert "king" (Harald Bluetooth) and his army.
BBC Earth came to Iceland in search of elves and trolls
BY STAFF | OCT 21 2015

BBC Earth's Melissa Hogenboom travelled to Iceland to search for trolls and elves - and found them.

Among the places Melissa visits is Álfhóll (Elf Hill) in the suburb of Kópavogur, which, according to Terry Gunnell, a professor in folkloristics at the National University, is considered an elf settlement.

Years back, equipment continually broke down when workers were laying the road through Álfhóll. Eventually, a decision was made to build the road around the hill rather than through it.

Melissa also meets Bjarni Harðarson from Selfoss, who's an expert in local folklore and trolls.

The segment can be viewed on BCC Earth's homepage - we recommend you watch the lovely video.

Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 06:08:58 +0100
Subject: "Who was John Titor, the `'time traveller'

Slightly interesting - had heard the name, and the `time traveller' label but little more.
PS - liked his survival advice.
Who was John Titor, the 'time traveller' who came from 2036 to warn us of a nuclear war?
As the world celebrates Back to the Future Day, it has forgotten the unknown man whose 2001 internet postings might just have saved humanity

Laurence Dodds By Laurence Dodds6:34PM BST 21 Oct 2015
If time travel is possible, why haven't we met any time travellers?

This was the question Stephen Hawking advanced on the topic of time warps. But it misses something: what if we have met time travellers without even knowing it? Or what if we've met them, but didn't believe them?

As the world marks the passing of Back to the Future's fictional future, it has almost forgotten a much less famous series of predictions which started sixteen years ago next month.

It was in the year 2000, on November 2, that a man calling himself John Titor logged onto an obscure internet discussion board and posted this message:

Greetings. I am a time traveller from the year 2036. I am on my way home after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.
`My `time' machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered by two top-spin dual-positive singularities that produce a standard off-set Tipler sinusoid. `I will be happy to post pictures of the unit.'

Questions followed. Titor answered them, some copiously, some cryptically. And he did indeed post pictures of his machine: mounted, like Back to the Future's, in a car (though it was a 1967 Chevrolet rather than a DeLorean).

Between November 2000 and March 2001, he answered many more questions. At one point he was even interviewed on a national talk radio show. He described his time machine in detail, even posting pictures of its user's manual. A small internet cult grew up around him. Then one day he was gone, leaving his acolytes to pick over the remains. Today, there are little shrines to his name all across the internet. see

But who was he really?

Titor's actual target was the year 1975; he was making a stopover in 2000 for `personal reasons'. He was a member of a military unit tasked with retrieving items from the past which could help get society back on its feet. A civil war in the United states had triggered a limited nuclear exchange with Russia in 2015, which killed nearly three million people. In the aftermath, life had returned to something more like what Republican survivalists imagine America should be:

In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa' the people that survived grew closer together. Life is centered on the family and then the community. I cannot imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents.

`There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face. Religion is taken seriously and everyone can multiply and divide in their heads.'

Plenty of people were sceptical of all this, but Titor didn't really care. `My goal is not to be believed,' he said. `Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.'

Between such withering asides, he did offer some advice. `Learn basic sanitation,' he said. `Learn to shoot and clean a gun. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in ten minutes and never return.' He even discussed the possibility of taking volunteers with him, if he could:

For all of you interested in coming back with me to 2036, perhaps we should discuss the trip. Please be aware, the displacement unit moves through time, not space.
First, we will be driving the current vehicle (Chevy truck) with the displacement unit in it to Tampa Florida. From there, we will go back to my arrival date on this worldline. Then we will have to drive to Minnesota, sell the current vehicle and get another one that would have been around in 1975.
We will then move the displacement unit (500 lbs or so) into the new vehicle and go back to 1975. Once in 1975, we'll drive back to Tampa and make the final hop to 2036. If you'd like to stay in 1975, you're welcome to do that.
It can also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you'll be subjected to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. You'll also need some sort of a re-breather system or oxygen supply.'

[The mechanics of a trip are described in more detail here.)

It was these kind of details which gave a sheen of plausibility to Titor's wild claims. There was just something about them which was convincing; just grubby enough to seem real, laced with just enough technobabble to convince the lay science enthusiast.

Okay, I can sense you rolling your eyes. But you have to understand, this was a different time. In 2015, the internet is completely intertwined with our `real' lives; we meet future colleagues on Twitter and send old school friends geotagged photos before checking our emails on the train. But in the year 2000 there were no smartphones, no social media. The cold blue glow of the CRT monitor was a portal into another world entirely - big, mysterious, and with no fixed identities. In this liminal place - one where, as the New Yorker once put it, nobody knew you were a dog - the idea of a time traveller posting on a bulletin board almost seemed plausible.

And then there was his reason for travelling. Titor claimed he had been sent back to 1975 to retrieve an IBM 5100 computer, which was needed to debug ageing machines still used in 2036. That in itself isn't too wacky: in 2002, NASA had to buy outdated medical equipment on eBay just so it could scavenge their obsolete Intel 8086 chips for their booster testing machines, and even the Orion spacecraft, whose first manned flight is scheduled for the 2020s, uses computers from 2002.

A grainy picture from Titor of his laser pointer supposedly bending in the machine's spacetime distortion field

But here's the kicker. Titor claimed the 5100 was needed in the future due to a special feature which IBM did not publicly announce. Sure enough, Bob Dubke, an engineer who helped design it, confirmed that such a feature existed. The 5100 had the rare ability to emulate programs in older languages used by IBM mainframes, but the company was worried about how its competition might use it, and told nobody. So Titor was at least a very well-informed hoaxer - a computer scientist or enthusiast who used his knowledge well.

For a few years, John Titor's legend passed around the net, drawing power from the paranoia of the Bush years. A company called the John Titor Foundation, registered in Florida, started selling merchandise and even a book called John Titor: A Time Traveller's Tale. There was a brief period where his predictions weren't yet due and where they could still technically come true.

But then 2004 arrived and there was no civil war. The Olympics that year were not cancelled. `Western stability' did not `collapse' the year after, and mad cow disease did not become rampant. And the president in 2005 did not `try desperately to be the next Lincoln'. The president in 2005 was George W. Bush.

After the failure of these predictions, most of the Titor activity online died down. But not all of it. In 2009, a report by John Hughston, who runs the Hoax Hunter website, named Larry Haber, a Florida entertainment lawyer, and John Rick Haber, his computer scientist brother, as the men behind John Titor.

Larry Haber is the CEO of the John Titor Foundation, and an IP address connected with Titor points to the same town in which he registered it. A private detective hired by an Italian TV company concluded that John Rick, with his presumed computer knowledge, was the culprit. And Titor's name had actually been first used in 1998, with a different set of predictions (including chaos caused by the Y2K bug). Larry apparently claims to be the lawyer for John Titor's mother.

So Titor was wrong, and there's a clear candidate for his real identity. Mystery solved?

Not according to some fans. You see, Titor's writings contained a get-out clause. Simply by travelling back, he said, he had created a new `worldline', distinct from the one in which he grew up. There was no guarantee that they'd follow the same path. In fact, he had already noticed some changes: `News events that happen at different times, football games won by other teams, things like that.' He put the `temporal divergence' between this worldline and his own at 1 or 2 per cent, but warned: `the longer I am here, the larger that divergence becomes.'
In this narrative, the Habers really were just family friends. Perhaps Titor stayed at their house for a while. And when he left, they were moved to keep his memory alive, in the hope of changing the future.

That's right: just by posting on the internet about the coming war, John Titor might actually have averted it - and nobody can prove otherwise. As one website puts it: `That we have the ability to guide the outcome of our worldline among the many possibilities in the multiverse `is perhaps the most important message Titor gave us.'

So maybe instead of fawning over a cash-in sci-fi sequel, you should really be thanking John Titor. You ungrateful, decadent sheep.

This article was udpdated at 18:34 on October 21, 2015, to add details of the Haber family and their connection to John Titor.

Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:04:45 +0100
Subject: "UFODATA - A Way Forward

Seems like a good idea -  "UFODATA - A Way Forward in UFO Science" (link)

"At UFODATA we seek to create a systematic, rigorous science of UFO phenomena.  Such a science is needed because of misplaced certainties on both sides of the UFO debate: `believers' convinced that UFOs are extraterrestrials, and `skeptics' equally convinced that UFOs do not even exist.  Our own view is that humanity knows very little about the true nature of unexplained UFO reports, and that the only way to resolve this lack of understanding is through serious scientific study.

This is now possible for the first time in the history of UFO research as a result of an unprecedented convergence of high resolution digital camera technologies, off-the shelf scientific instrumentation, powerful low-cost computing platforms, and ubiquitous high-speed internet access."

  - if only because the last half-century has been polluted by MSM complicity in blanket-publishing of CIA-led disinformation [mostly from USA/UK gov't agencies], coupled with systematic bullying of witnesses, theft of evidence and interference with genuine investigators (inc. murder).

And they seem to have assembled a good team (link).  I specially like the inclusion of Leslie Kean, a good investigator and fearless writer.

For earlier work see comment on her documentary stuff (link).

Ray D

Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:14:54 +0100
Subject: "Scientists say an ancient megatsunami hurled boulders nearly as high as the Eiffel Tower

Heck - the whole eastern seaboard of the Americas, all the way from Newfoundland down past the `bulge' of Brazil, could have been affected by that (and much of west coast of Europe, inc. UK).
Scientists say an ancient megatsunami hurled boulders nearly as high as the Eiffel Tower
By Chris Mooney | October 2
We live on a dynamic, sometimes violent planet. It's just that we also live on it for a relatively short period of geologic time, and so we miss most of the action.

Scientists drove the point home today in a new study published in Science Advances, which suggests the occurrence of a stupendously powerful megatsunami in the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa some 73,000 years ago. Around that time, they believe, a large flank of the volcanic island of Fogo collapsed into the ocean, unleashing a gigantic wave more than 300 feet in height that traveled about 30 miles to the island of Santiago - where it would have done simply incredible things.

When the wave hit, the theory goes, it was so powerful that it surged all the way over the top of a more than 600 foot high cliff, ultimately attaining water levels nearly 900 feet above sea level - nearly as high as the Eiffel Tower. It also scoured large boulders from below - or perhaps directly tore them from the rock itself - and carried them to the top of the plateau where modern scientists would later identify them.

"You're displacing a huge mass, which must generate movement of water," says Ricardo Ramalho, the lead researcher behind the study who conducted the work while at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, and is currently based at the University of Bristol in the UK. "And in the case of volcanic flank collapses they can be very acute, because you have all this mass collapsing basically into the oceans." Ramalho published the work along with a team of researchers from Columbia University as well as several universities in Portugal and Japan.

The new study originates with a simple mystery - Ramalho was on Santiago in 2007 and saw large boulders on top of the high plateau, which ends in a steep cliff face. "I was puzzled by their origin. I didn't know what they meant," he says.

But a few years later, other researchers published evidence suggesting a tsunami had hit Santiago long ago. They only documented tsunami impacts at low elevations, however, not atop the high plateau. This inspired Ramalho and colleagues to take a closer look at the boulders and other associated geological evidence at much higher elevations.

Adding to the picture was strong evidence that Fogo, a nearby island that consists of a large and still active volcano rising four miles from the seafloor, had undergone a partial collapse - the seafloor nearby shows evidence of a huge rock avalanche. That's precisely the kind of event scientists had long thought could create a megatsunami.

Yet the entire concept of megatsunamis has been `highly controversial,' in the researchers' words, featuring big scientific debates and lots of ambiguous evidence. And it was certainly possible that Fogo's collapse had happened in stages rather than all at once - in which case it might have created several smaller tsunamis, rather than one gigantic one. This has long been one of the arguments against megatsunamis - that volcanic island flanks might collapse, but surely not all at once.

But after examining the boulders and other associated geologic evidence at high elevations on Santiago - an area that is across the sea from where Fogo's collapse would have occurred - Ramalho and his colleagues now assert that they must come from far below, up the side of a sheer vertical cliff. And they say only a megatsunami could do that.

The evidence hinges on the nature of the boulders, which are composed of rock types that `exclusively crop out on the cliff faces and lower slopes of the plateau, implying a source at considerably lower elevations,' the researchers write.

The scientists also used cosmogenic techniques, based on how cosmic rays that bombard the Earth create unique isotopes on rock surfaces, to date how long the large rocks - maxing out at 700 tons - had been sitting exposed on the plateau. The technique found that the dating corresponded with the time when Fogo's collapse occurred.

The researchers therefore concluded that the rocks were `quarried from the cliff edge and face' by the gigantic wave and then `transported uphill and inland onto the surface of the plateau.'

"You can only explain the existence of those deposits from the impact of a giant tsunami approaching from the western side of the island, and of course, that's where Fogo is," says Ramalho.

Flank collapses of this type, says Ramalho, are mainly possible with volcanic islands, because these kinds of islands thrust upward so dramatically from the seafloor. "They are some of the tallest features on Earth," he says. "The big island of Hawaii, if you take into account from the base of the seafloor up to the summit, it's even higher than Mount Everest."

Indeed, there is also published research suggesting that a megatsunami happened in the Hawaiian islands, over 100,000 years ago. And there is the longstanding suggestion that a collapse of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the Canary Islands' LaPalma island could create a tsunami that travels across the entire Atlantic and impacts the United States.

The researchers say they don't want to scare people, but they do think that certain volcanic islands are theoretically capable of producing similar events. There should be more study of volcanic islands and their potential for flank collapse so as to `realistically assess the full hazard potential of such low-probability but high-impact events,' the study concludes.

"I'm not saying that this is going to happen on Fogo or elsewhere, tomorrow," says Ramalho. "I'm just saying, this happened in the past, so we need to be vigilant."

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:45:36 +0100
Subject: Re: Re: Re: I-O-T - Perpetual Motion

Right Roy, as James P. Hogan wrote, paraphrasing Hannes Alfvén et al (in `Kicking the Sacred Cow' sacred-cow.txt - Section One: "Of Bangs and Braids") :- "a plasma focus can increase the power density of its emission by a factor of ten thousand trillion over energy supplied".

And Alfvén and his school went on to describe how such plasma braiding can explain the formation of Solar Systems (which is impossible under gravity only, due to the observed but unexplained transfer of most angular momentum from a condensing central proto-sun to the planetary disk).

Likewise similar plasma braiding - although on a much larger scale - accounts for spiral galaxies holding together AND their rotation speeds being maintained throughout the radii of their disks.  That is impossible under gravity only - indeed that's why our fake mainstream science has had to invent "dark matter" (which doesn't exist) and thence "dark energy" (also non-existent).

A careful look at Wiki's entries for Hannes Alfvén and the work of his inspirer Kristian Birkeland shows the origin of plasma universe thinking - which has been totally rejected, suppressed and fought at every stage by mediocre, uninformed mainstream `scientists' (mostly terrified bean-counters, without a creative or intelligent thought in their heads).


> Hi Ray, > It seems to me that while the theory had been proposed it was only when the electric universe was discovered that the theory became reality. With the power of plasma having the power of something like 10 to the fortieth power and the same plasma dominating 99.9%of the known universe then the sensible thing to do would be to direct those interested to investigate plasma and become acquainted with the electric energies already identified by Wal Thornhill and associates thereby giving realism and life to an otherwise theoretical skeleton.
> Roy

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:31:59 +0100
Subject: Re: I-O-T - Perpetual Motion

Hello Roy,
there is a gaping hole in physics - the cause of matter's mass and inertia.

In Relativity the inertial force is unexplained, Einstein simply accepts Mach's Principle without comment.  [Other than that given at timeprob.html#matter - i.e. "The cause must therefore lie outside this system. ... distant masses"]

On examining the four `magic forces' we find that they are quite weak, even the strongest (fine structure constant) is less than 1 x 10-2, plunging down to the weakest (gravity) which is less than 1 x 10-44.  However the inertial field is much stronger - as seen in gyros etc.  So I'm correlating the inertial field with the `infinite energy' in empty space (sometimes called the quintessence) which Quantum Mechanics predicts.

However, although human physics can't explain or manipulate the inertial field (except to detect it by use of gyros etc.) it seems that other folk in the universe can.

Maybe see the most significant finding (IMHO) of Dr Richard Haines re: interference with inertial (gyro) compasses on aircraft during certain UFO incidents, at metamail101.html#ufo-det [video] - and notice that a very experienced pilot wasn't even aware that his gyro compasses DON'T work by magnetism (electromagnetism) but by gyroscopic inertia.

Haines correctly identified outside interference and control of the inertial field around the aircraft.  And he stressed: "We can't do that".

But it's happening, and on a fairly regular basis apparently.


> Hi Ray,
> So, am I correct in thinking that in this case the mathematical theory was correct but the practical science in this case failed the theorists?

> I'm not sure I understand the situation and would appreciate some clarification if you could manage that - thanks.
> Roy

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:31 +0100
Subject: I-O-T - Perpetual Motion

`In Our Time' is back - and today examines `Perpetual Motion' as a myth / legend only recently disproved.  The panel spent some time repeating "Conservation of Energy" and "The 2nd Law" (of thermodynamics) like mantras, and OK those two _do_ forbid `perpetual motion' in a closed system:

Yet Quantum Mechanics sees the universe as `open' and actually says there is _infinite_ energy available in empty space (quintessence).  That's the inertial energy which mainstream science can't explain or affect at the moment.

See Dr Richard Haines: "We don't know how to do that" - at metamail101.html#ufo-det [video]
Ray D
Perpetual Motion
In Our Time | Available now - 43 minutes - Next on 21:30 tonite

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the rise of the idea of perpetual motion and its decline, in the 19th Century, with the Laws of Thermodynamics. For hundreds of years, some of the greatest names in science thought there might be machines that could power themselves endlessly. Leonardo Da Vinci tested the idea of a constantly-spinning wheel and Robert Boyle tried to recirculate water from a draining flask. Gottfried Leibniz supported a friend, Orffyreus, who claimed he had built an ever-rotating wheel. An increasing number of scientists voiced their doubts about perpetual motion, from the time of Galileo, but none could prove it was impossible. For scientists, the designs were a way of exploring the laws of nature. Others claimed their inventions actually worked, and promised a limitless supply of energy. It was not until the 19th Century that the picture became clearer, with the experiments of James Joule and Robert Mayer on the links between heat and work, and the establishment of the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics.

Ruth Gregory
Professor of Mathematics and Physics at Durham University
Frank Close
Professor Emeritus of Physics at the University of Oxford
Steven Bramwell
Professor of Physics and former Professor of Chemistry at University College London

Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 18:12:01 +0100
Subject: "Gov of Arizona [finally] tells the truth"

Hate to say it but think the Governor lied - he took a cheap shot and had a fake `bug-eyed monster' / alien figure enter the press conference, in order to deride and make mock of all the hundreds, maybe thousands of folk who'd seen the actual `craft' pass over - NOT the much later military flares dropped on purpose to confuse the issue.

So, as he personally saw the craft himself but didn't say so at the time - he's a liar.  BUT probably he'd come under irresistible pressure (i.e. "do what we say or you're dead") from folk much higher up the food-chain than himself.
"Gov of Arizona [finally] tells the truth"

Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:36:15 +0100
Subject: "How safe can artificial intelligence be?
How safe can artificial intelligence be?
" ... For a start, we live with AI already. The calculations behind your Google searches or your browsing on Amazon are not just ticking over - the software is constantly learning how to respond more rapidly and usefully.
This is remarkable but is described as "narrow" or "weak" AI because it can only work within the guidelines it's been given by its human inventors, a crucial limitation.
By contrast, "general" or "strong" AI - which does not exist yet - implies a more assertive ability to do things that go beyond the original human intentions, not to "think" but to improvise.
Huge obstacles stand in the way of getting there, either by mimicking how a human brain works or building sufficient processing power from scratch, let alone creating a robot with its own ideas and agendas.
For a reality check, I visited Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, to see engineers working on some of the most capable robots in the world.
They laughed at the notion of a robot army someday taking over - "I am not concerned about intelligent machines", said project leader Brett Kennedy.
His team's RoboSimian is an unnerving version of a mechanical monkey that can morph between different postures so it can either stand or crawl or roll along on wheels.
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Right - a `reassuring' piece of hack-work.  So do I feel reassured?  No!

This question - or danger - might/could be associated with that `communicating with ET' problem - only this might be much more immediate.

PS - of course some version of the possible `catastrophe' might've happened before, many millenia ago.
PS2 - see recent articles below

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:21:10 +0100
Subject: Linda M-H and Richard D

Had picked up on Linda's academic and journalist credentials a while ago, and was quite impressed.

Here's a face-to-face interview with Linda (i've set the time for 6mins 55 secs hope it works) - and for a bonus later there's Richard D as well (haven't watched his bit yet).
Richard Dolan and Linda Moulton-Howe

Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:16:30 +0100
Subject: "The Lore of the Land - Episode 4 of 5

Yes, there _is_ something a bit weird about seals (and maybe other sea mammals).

Once, rambling along the shore in Shetland (South Mainland - Quendale Bay and westwards to Fitful Head, some scary cliffs) I waved to a seal about 100 yards out to sea who'd poked his/her head up to look at me.  I turned and walked west for a mile or two - and then noticed that seal was following me, with another slightly smaller one (the female?) tagging behind.  They kept following, even when they had to detour out to sea to keep sight of me after I passed Garth's Ness (a steep cliff-lined headland), and descended to the rocky shore of a small bay under Fitful.  The first one came right into the narrow bay and finally got within a few yards of me (I was standing on a rock by then, with occasional waves washing my boots).

Never did figure out why they did that.
The Lore of the Land - Episode 4 of 5

The fourth episode of medieval literature scholar Dr Carolyne Larrington's series exploring the enduring relevance of the creatures of British folklore. On the Orkney isles, local storyteller Lynn Barbour is on hand to recount folktales filled with the mysterious beings that are said to live in the sea and on the shore.

Gazing out to sea, Carolyne spies a seal in the bay. Lynn explains that grey seals, known locally as selkies, play an important role in Orkney folklore. It is said that selkies shed their skins and come on land in human form. The selkies are known to have relationships with humans, but these often end badly.

Lynn tells the tale of the Selkie of Wastness in which a man steals a selkie maiden's skin and persuades her to become his wife. We also hear the story of the Selkie of Sule Skerry which features a lonely wife forming a relationship with a selkie man in her husband's absence. The couple have a selkie child, but when the husband returns he kills both the child and the selkie man while hunting.

And there are tales of the Sea Trow, with their faces like monkeys made of jellyfish and the Muckle Mester Stoorworm, a great serpent that once spat out its teeth which formed the Orkney isles. With the sea lapping in the background, Lynn describes the Finn-men who live in a watery city down in the depths of the sea and beckon sailors to join them.

Carolyne explains that these local tales examine the boundary between sea and shore. In Orkney, there are possibilities to cross that boundary close at hand, but the stories warn that you do so at your peril.

Transformation, tragedy, desire and despair mark these tales of sea and shore.

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:09:28 +0100
Subject: "Lore of the Land

First one was about giants and legends associated with various rock formations and hills - more episodes to come; check these pages
The Lore of the Land - Episode 2 of 5

Fresh water is mysterious, springing up in unexpected places and vanishing just as quickly. Fresh water gives life, allows humans to settle and thrive. But it can also be dangerous - life-taking as well as life-giving. As a result, the folkloric creatures and spirits that are said to live within our rivers, streams and ponds are both kindly and threatening.

In the second episode of her five part series exploring the enduring relevance of the creatures of folklore that are traditionally said to have dwelt in the landscape of Great Britain, medieval literature scholar Dr Carolyne Larrington visits Marden in Herefordshire. Walking along the peaceful River Lugg, Carolyne is accompanied by Sophia Kingshill who has a unique area of expertise - mermaids.

Standing by Marden Church, Sophia tells the tale of the Mermaid of Marden who is said to have stolen the church bell and dragged it down to the watery depths of the Lugg. We also hear the tales of mermaids who, when respected, offer pagan healing remedies, but who can be a malevolent force when challenged by the Christian beliefs of those on dry land.

Many folkloric creatures that live in British ponds and rivers appear in cautionary tales designed to keep children away from the water's edge. There's Peg Powler who pulls children to their watery doom and Jenny Greenteeth who lives amongst the weeds.

Carolyne explains that British folklore offers us a gendered imagining of water, feminine, refreshing and nurturing, but there's also horror and danger below the placid surface; the water-hag and her clutching fingers is never too far away.
The Lore of the Land - Episode 3 of 5

Dark and foreboding, the dense woodland that once covered so much of Great Britain has always been populated with the creatures of folklore. In the third episode of her five part series exploring the enduring relevance of the folkloric creatures of the British landscape, medieval literature scholar Dr Carolyne Larrington heads into the heart of an ancient forest in Windsor Great Park to seek them out.

Carolyne is joined on her walk by local storyteller and expert on Berkshire folktales, David England. As the pair venture deeper into the forest David tells the tale of Herne the Hunter. Herne is a mysterious figure. Once the king's head huntsman, he is gored to death by a raging stag. Brought back to life by a mysterious sorcerer, but robbed of his skill as a huntsman thanks to the dirty dealings of a horde of jealous hunters, Herne eventually hangs himself from an oak in the Windsor woods. According to local folklore, Herne still rides through Windsor Great Park with a pair of antlers upon his head, accompanied by a hunt made up of all those who wronged him.

This tradition of a 'wild hunt' has roots in earlier folkloric traditions. In the Anglo Saxon world, Woden the storm god leads a host of spectral huntsmen, and in Wales an underworld figure called Gwyn ap Nudd is said to be followed by a hunt that includes a pack of white hounds with red eyes and ears.

Carolyne argues that, while we've lost much of our medieval woodland, the forest still arouses a primeval sense of awe and terror. The woods are where we imagine the terrifying, the alluring and the uncivilised to range freely, inviting us to shed our city identities and return to a more instinctual way of being.

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 09:58:38 +0100
Subject: "Mysterious `Planet X' may be real: some scientists believe"

Interesting - must be a slow news period to allow this to surface in the MSM.

Gloria Bradley - Sun, 09/06/2015 - 06:18
After its successful flyby mission, the New Horizons spacecraft of the National Aeronautics & Space Administration (NASA) is now taking on another mission, hunting for a mysterious cosmic body called "Planet X."

The so-called Planet X has long been the matter of legends, but now some scientists believe that the mysterious planet may really exist somewhere in the Kuiper Belt -- a field of debris at the outer edge of our solar system.

Scientists have already discovered as many as 1,500 different objects in the Kuiper Belt, but most of these objects are so small that they can qualify for even dwarf planet status. But, some scientists believe that a large planet, bigger than Earth, and some gas giants like Neptune, may exist in the Kuiper Belt.

Planet X has become a kind of `holy grail' for astronomers ever since it was suggested by Percival Lowell, the founder of an observatory in Arizona. Lowell was trying to explain the unique orbit of Uranus that he believed was being affected by a large object located out towards the edge of our solar system.

But, the mysterious planet's distance from the Earth and lack of light has made searching for it particularly difficult. However, gravitational pull suggest its existence.

In 2014, the prestigious journal Nature also reported compiling evidence from Hawaii-based Gemini Observatory that indicated that there could be a large gravitationally disturbing object lurking out at the edge of the solar system.

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:43:22 +0100
Subject: "Enlightenment to Entanglement

Yup, it's the `emergent properties' of our biggest computing mechanisms that should be worrying folk.

`Emergent' properties are not predictable by reductionist science (or any other science) and could swing in any direction.

Fr'instance a super-computer could be a psycho, laying a secret thousand-year plan to exterminate humans by tiny slow changes each generation - that could be totally undetectable until too late.
From Enlightenment to Entanglement
Science writer Stuart Clark explores the relationship between scientists and computers.
Available now | 28 minutes

Astrophysicist and science writer Dr Stuart Clark asks whether our increasing reliance on computers in scientific research is becoming an obstacle to progress.

Are we moving from the Enlightenment - when the scientist demystified the world, to the Entanglement where the scientist ends up mystified?

At CERN, Stuart meets Physicist Paul Laycock who reveals the tsunami of data that the Large Hadron Collider produces every second. In order to stay afloat, Paul and his team apply the tried and tested scientific method, using hypotheses and theory to guide them through petabytes of raw physics data.

We visit a genome sequencing lab where advances in computer power and sequencing technology are making it possible to collect genomic data faster than ever. Some critics argue that we are gorging on data, collecting more information than we can hope to analyse.

Stuart peers through a mass of wires to gaze at a powerful computer, part of the Human Brain Project, which plans to create a fully working computer simulation of the human brain. Many neurologists argue that the project have a misplaced faith in the power of computers, having done away with the Enlightenment principles of the scientific method. Those involved respond by stating that theirs is a fundamentally new way of doing science.

Finally, Stuart hears from super computer inventor Danny Hillis who explains that we are rapidly losing the ability to understand how our computers actually work. Once programmed to act as reliable slaves, computers now exhibit unpredictable emergent behaviour. As a result, Hillis argues, the role of scientist is changing as we enter a new age of complexity - the Entanglement.

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:12:17 +0100
Subject: Re: "Bizarre Mars crater reveals huge slab of ice closer to surface than any seen before

Hi Roy - Tom Van Flandern (RIP) was ostracised for his opinions on a number of issues (Big Bang etc) and had taken the trouble (while he was in post at the US Naval Observatory (IIRC?) to collect and collate a lot of Mars info.

i)  Mars crustal thickness at the South Pole is about twice that of the North Polar region;  which is an indication that Mars was once in a locked orbit around a much larger primary (like Saturn or Jupiter say;  [because a tidal-locked moon generally develops a thicker crust on the _outward_ side from its primary];

ii)  that thicker crust area (outward side) is heavily cratered while the thinner crust area has very few craters, as you'd expect if Mars was in orbit round a much bigger planet for most of its life;

iii)  increasing evidence for large and deep oceans on Mars up to fairly `recent' times means that Mars had to have been protected by a strong magnetic screen (like our geo-magnetic one) - which was likely generated by that primary (Saturn or Jupiter);

iv)  that huge `scar' on Mars mid-latitudes is pretty strong sign of an inter-planetary collision - probably the impact which pushed Mars out of its long-lasting `safe' orbit around Saturn or Jupiter.

For info, have listed those facts and links to Tom's more informative pages, at mars.html Ray

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: "Bizarre Mars crater reveals huge slab of ice closer to surface than any seen before

Hi Ray,
So, what is the real story of Mars' past?  Methinks it has more to do with Kronos (Saturn) than any behind the times scientist dares to think.  But don't say that too loud - it might lead to an outburst of apoplectic fits and theoretical mathematical epileptic tantrums from certain supposedly scientific quarters.

Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:23:14 +0100
Subject: "Bizarre Mars crater reveals huge slab of ice closer to surface than any seen before

Interesting - especially the comment:  "There's no climate model that we have now that explains this."

That means the `mainstream' account of Mars' history doesn't fit with all this (maybe continental-sized) subsurface water-ice - so what's the real story of Mars' past?
w/video at

Bizarre Mars crater reveals huge slab of ice closer to surface than any seen before
Published time: 29 Aug, 2015 14:01

Scientists have finally solved the mystery of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's puzzling discovery of a perfect, terraced, gigantic crater. And it's better than `aliens'. For humans have just discovered water ice at much shallower depths than previously thought.

It all started with the MRO's finding of a crater that was too bizarrely shaped. A meteor impact normally results in debris flying out in different directions. Not the case here; the crater was perfectly terraced and the size of California and Texas - two of America's three biggest states - put together.

The predictable flurry of articles declaring it as a UFO landing emerged soon thereafter. But Ali Bramson of the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (LPL) dispelled the sensationalism - and offered something better: "an enormous slab of water ice, measuring 130 feet thick."

Bramson explained the initial confusion: "Craters should be bowl-shaped, but this one had terraces in the wall.

"When the crater is forming, the shock wave from an object hitting a planet's surface propagates differently depending on what substrates are beneath the area of impact," and, therefore, "If you have a weaker material in one layer, the shock wave can push out that material more easily, and the result is terracing at the interface between the weaker and stronger materials."

But terraced craters the size of two US states are quite rare. And this area of Mars - the Arcadia Planitia - is pock-marked with the peculiar terrace-shaped plugholes. "The craters may have formed at different times, but they all have terraces, which indicates something weird is going on in the subsurface," Shane Byrne, associate professor at LPL, said.

The laboratory made good use of its High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment camera (HiRISE), and combined the data with SHARAD - or the Shallow Radar, aboard the MRO to make a 3D model of the craters' characteristics. The signals being sent to Mars hit the surface at different times, allowing for a topographical imaging to take place.

Surprisingly, this particular crater revealed lots of ice, just beneath Mars's thin upper crust of dirt. We of course already know that water and ice had to be present on the planet at some point. But not at such depths, and at such mid-latitudes, comparable to Earth's.

"Knowing where the ice is and how thick it is can tell you about Mars' past climates," Byrne said. "The fact that the ice is so thick and widespread leads us to think it came into place during one of Mars' past climates when it snowed a bunch, ice accumulated, was buried, and then preserved."

But at such shallow depths the Arizona team would have expected the ice to melt, which it hasn't, in all this time.

And that is what perks everyone's interest and definitely paves the way for further research. Because, as Byrne puts it, "There's no climate model that we have now that explains this."

And, who knows, this could bring us a step closer on the way to colonizing the place. We are soon getting the tools - NASA's just tested its new mega-engine that should provide enough juice to take us there.

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:32:38 +0100
Subject: "Lluniau'r Dyn Gwyrdd // Green Man in pictures

Forgot about the Green Man this year - used to live on a main road into the Welsh site and could meet hundreds of bikers in the local pub / hotel on the nights before the festival - we had lock-ins with some who had their instruments with them - good musical nights.
BTW - some years ago a query, seen at green-man-search.html (from a UFO list), led to some research which makes me think there's more to the Green Man than modern folk know about (my post could look tongue-in-cheek, but maybe not)
Lluniau'r Dyn Gwyrdd // Green Man in pictures
24 Awst 2015 [12 various photos]

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:32:33 +0100
Subject: Drones scaring Wildlife?

Might not be all that new.  There's a Lorthet Cave "horn carving of migrating deer and salmon" maybe 17,000 yrs ago with two drone-like flying / hovering objects - shown at real-art.html#strange which asks  "Bearing in mind the accuracy of these prehistoric art-works you might well ask - `What are those unnatural-looking kite-shaped objects - or `drones'? - overhead, which seem to alarm that deer?'" - and it's also discussed at (they call the carving a "printer" because it's designed to be rolled over a surface to "print" the image on it.)
Drones could be stressing out wildlife, scientists suggest
By Chelsea Harvey August 13

The rising popularity of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) has caused them to show up everywhere from private back yards to national parks, and the drones have proven useful for all kinds of applications, including recreation, military defense and even scientific research. As a result, although drones and wildlife might not seem like they should ever mix, more and more frequently they do.

One increasing use for UAVs is allowing scientists, conservationists and even ecotourists to get up close and personal with nature. They have been used to ward off rhino and elephant poachers in Africa and collect data on wild humpback whales. Amateur drone operators have used UAVs to collect videos and photographs of wildlife, such as dolphins, in their natural habitats.

But as much as UAVs are becoming more common among wildlife researchers and enthusiasts, there has been little research on how the animals actually react to the aircraft. Measuring animals' reactions to drones buzzing around overhead is important for figuring out how much stress the aircraft may be putting on the local fauna, say researchers from the University of Minnesota. And they have just released a study that lead author Mark Ditmer, a postdoctoral researcher in the University of Minnesota's Department of Fisheries, Wildlife and Conservation Biology, says he hopes will encourage more research on the subject.

The study, released Thursday in the journal Current Biology, suggests that black bears can be stressed out by the presence of UAVs, even if they don't outwardly show it.

Ditmer and his colleagues outfitted four bears in northwestern Minnesota - two mothers with cubs, one hibernating female, and one young male - with GPS collars and cardiac `biologgers', or devices that collect heart rate data. Then, they flew a UAV over each bear anywhere from one to nine times (for a total of 18 flights) while observing the bears' movements and heart rates.

They found that each of the bears' heart rates spiked every time the drone flew overhead, suggesting that they were stressed by the UAV's presence. But surprisingly, even though their hearts were racing, the bears tended to stand still rather than run away. This reaction underscores the importance of conducting physiological tests on wildlife, such as heart rate monitoring, rather than just watching to see what they do when a drone is around, Ditmer says.

"Just because we can't directly observe an effect doesn't mean it's not there," Ditmer says. If the researchers had simply watched the bears' movements during the UAV flights, he adds, "we would have incorrectly come to the conclusion that UAV flights weren't having much of an effect on individuals."

Ditmer also suspects that bears in other locations might have even more pronounced stress responses to UAVs: The bears in his study lived in areas heavily populated by humans and were probably used to a little noise from nearby roads and farms.

"These bears are in probably one of the most human-dominated parts of Minnesota, in terms of where bears are located anyway, so we thought they would be the most habituated to outside stressors," Ditmer says. It's another reason more research is needed: Animals in different locations or under different circumstances, even if they are members of the same species, may not react to stress factors in the same way. And similar physiological studies could be warranted for other animals that are commonly the subject of drone research or interventions.

Over a long period, the physiological stress response could be bad for the health of wildlife if they fail to get habituated to the presence of drones, Ditmer says. Even more worrying, animals that also exhibit behavioral responses to drones - by running away, for example - could become more "vulnerable to sources of mortality," the authors write, such as fleeing into traffic or into another individual's territory.

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:34:23 +0100
Subject: `Aliens prevented nuclear war on Earth'

Ha!  It's very easy to get turned-off by this subject, but a scientific examination gives some surprising conclusions.  The profs Stewart & Cohen listed some, here's a sample:
"An advanced technology (say a million years old, or five hundred million, compared to the two hundred year history of `advanced' human technology) will be able to make, distribute, and hide artifacts that we cannot begin to imagine. That may well be the most likely scenario: Fermi's Paradox doesn't apply because the aliens are here but we simply don't recognize them."
Ray D
`Aliens prevented nuclear war on Earth': Former NASA astronaut makes unexpected claim
Published time: 13 Aug, 2015 14:13

Aliens came to Earth to stop a nuclear war between the US and the Soviet Union at the start of the Cold War, according to the sixth man to walk the surface of the moon.
Edgar Mitchell, an astronaut on the Apollo 14 mission in 1971, says peace-loving aliens visited our planet during weapons tests at US missile bases and the famous White Sands Proving Ground in the New Mexico desert - where the world's first nuclear bomb was detonated in 1945.

"White Sands was a testing ground for atomic weapons - and that's what the extra-terrestrials were interested in," the 84-year-old told Mirror Online. "They wanted to know about our military capabilities."

He added that the extraterrestrials were "attempting to keep us from going to war and help create peace on Earth."

Mitchell also says that other officers support his claims.

"I have spoken to many Air Force officers who worked at these silos during the Cold War," he said. "They told me UFOs were frequently seen overhead and often disabled their missiles."

"Other officers from bases on the Pacific coast told me their [test] missiles were frequently shot down by alien spacecraft," he added.

While the claims may seem out-of-this-world, they've become somewhat expected from Mitchell, who has been outspoken about his belief in aliens since landing on the surface of the moon.

Mitchell has previously stated that aliens looks quite a lot like the stereotypical image - a small body with a large head and eyes.
(more at page ...)
The sixth person to walk on the moon, Mitchell spent nine hours on the lunar surface in 1971, in the Fra Mauro Highlands region.

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:33:52 +0100
Subject: "The End of the Age of Ideas

Not sure about this:  Robert Rowland Smith is a consultant, lecturer and writer on philosophy and literature; and a bit new-agey by the sound of it.  He started by emphasising that each successive `age' [superstition, religion, reason, and now ideas] merely lies atop the previous one; so there are many folk and peoples still embedded in their own `age of superstition'.

He went on to say that present society still runs itself by `reason' - but very badly at times (i.e. holocaust, bureaucracy, bankers' thievery etc), but is now ostensibly ruled by `ideas'.

Finally he opined we're heading into an age which will be ruled by a linkage of intuitions, emotions, instincts and body awareness.  A bit hard to imagine how that will work.

The End of the Age of Ideas | 15 minutes
Four Thought
Robert Rowland Smith argues that we are coming to the end of the Age of Ideas.  He examines how different 'ages' - of superstition, religion, reason and ideas - have emerged and gradually been eclipsed.  And he hints at the age we may be about to enter.

Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 14:02:31 +1000 Subject: Re: "The End of the Age of Ideas

Heading into an age where, in that case, sounds like we should be closer to nature then, if there is any nature left to be close to?  Many are becoming more intuitive Ray it is quite noticeable from where I sit - and more inclined to share it too - which is probably why it is more noticeable.

Your first para here took me to the Druid saying "We were Egypt, Greece and Rome".  In future days I guess "The British Empire" & USA will be added into that statement?  Karma, reincarnation, all lead us to our destiny.

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 05:08:46 +0100
Subject: That "search for aliens" article

About that "search for aliens" article - have only just realized that the Profs Cohen & Stewart's scenario #4 [non-organic, energy-pattern types] had already crossed my mind (a long while ago someone wrote in asking about `psychic vampires', which I'd never heard of so couldn't really help him - however got thinking about the concept and came to some conclusions which pretty well approximated to actual `psychic vampires' existing - although not all of them necessarily being malicious or damaging).

That's outlined at friend-foe.html - and it's worth noting that since it was written (maybe ten+ yrs ago) there have been several veiled suggestions or pointers in that direction (at least one from the Vatican).  They're in the footnotes and links.

Ray D

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:32:16 +0100
Subject: "Russian entrepreneur launches $100 million search for aliens, backed by Stephen Hawking

Ha! The Profs Cohen and Stewart wrote of four `not as we know it' scenarios for alien life seemingly ignored by NASA, SETI and mainstream big-science:


1 Different carbon-based chemistry in an Earthlike system, such as another nucleic acid conformation, or different linear chemistry altogether instead of DNA;

2 Different metabolic circumstances around carbon-water-based life such as sulphur instead of oxygen, different amino acids and proteins, or metals as support at temperatures above 300° C;

3 Different chemistry altogether, perhaps based in silicon and silicones - or chemistry we haven't thought of, for instance in Jupiter's atmosphere or core;

4 Totally different recursive systems altogether, from reproducing tori in stellar atmospheres to complex systems of subatomic particles on the surface of neutron stars.


And for detection or hoped-for communication, the Profs stress that radio is a transitory and primitive technology which will certainly not be used by really advanced species.  As they said, if/when we go out into the Galaxy, a radio will be about as useful as smoke-signals.
Russian entrepreneur launches $100 million search for aliens, backed by Stephen Hawking

A Russian entrepreneur has launched the biggest and most expensive search for alien life ever, backed by famous scientists including Stephen Hawking and Frank Drake.

Yuri Milner, who funds a range of science prizes, has launched a $100 million project called Breakthrough Listen that will give scientists some of the most promising chances to find human life in the universe.

He will also launch another project called Breakthrough Message, which will work together to create a message that can be sent to aliens. The best messages will share a reward of $1 million.

The mission to decide exactly what to say has been a difficult one - some cosmologists have worried that plans to beam messages could spell doom for humanity.

The project will give those scientists that are looking for life elsewhere in the universe better access than ever to telescopes and computing power, which will be used to try and find life elsewhere in the universe.

Hawking said that it differentiated itself from previous initiatives because of its increased resources - including extra time with telescopes and more data processing capabilities.

He also warned against getting in touch with any extraterrestrial life that is found. Confrontations between more and less advanced civilisations have often gone wrong, and aliens could be billions of years ahead of us and so see us as no more valuable than we see bacteria.

Other members of the group of high-profile scientists backing the mission said that they didn't want to send a message for fear of upsetting people who worry that aliens might become enraged by our doing so. Using funds to send messages would also be a waste of limited funds, said Frank Drake.

But Ann Druyan, who is leading the work on Breakthrough Message, said that the work to decide what to say to aliens is valuable even if it doesn't actually get sent. It will help humanity think about itself and work out its place in the universe, she said.

Milner said his motivation is his belief that other civilizations could teach us how to handle challenges such as allocating natural resources - and that we might learn from finding that there is no other life.

"If we're alone, we need to cherish what we have," he said. "The message is, the universe has no backup."

The only previous major search for life was known as the Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence, or SETI. Globally, less than $2 million annually is spent on SETI, said Dan Werthimer, an adviser to Milner's project and the astrophysicist who directs the SETI@home project affiliated with the University of California in Berkeley.

Today, due to improvements in technology, including in computing power and telescope sensitivity, $100 million will go much farther than in the early 1990s, the last time SETI had significant funding, scientists said.

In one day, the project will collect more data than a year of any previous search, Milner said.

All of the data will be made available to the public, and all of the software developed during the search will be made open source so that anybody can use it. "More data will be open than ever in the history of science," Milner said.

As such, it will join up with SETI@Home, which hooks personal computers together so that their spare computing power can be contributed to the search through data.

The advances allow scientists to monitor several billion radio frequencies at a time, instead of several million, and to search 10 times more sky than in the early 1990s.

But any signals the scientists detect will likely have been created years ago, perhaps even centuries or millennia earlier. Radio signals take four years simply to travel between Earth and the nearest star outside our solar system.

The advances allow scientists to monitor several billion radio frequencies at a time, instead of several million, and to search 10 times more sky than in the early 1990s.

But any signals the scientists detect will likely have been created years ago, perhaps even centuries or millennia earlier. Radio signals take four years simply to travel between Earth and the nearest star outside our solar system.

In 10 years, with his $100 million, Milner figures scientists can listen for radio transmissions in the Milky Way galaxy, plus the 100 nearest galaxies.

One of the biggest costs lies in booking time at radio telescopes, including at Australia's Parkes Observatory in New South Wales and the Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia. Milner plans to book about two months a year at each site, a boon to scientists who normally might get two days a year on the telescopes.

The team, led by scientists such as Peter Worden, who until earlier this year directed the NASA Ames Research Center, will organize the radio signals they find, make the data public, and examine the data for patterns.

The goal lies less in understanding the signals than in establishing whether they were created by intelligent life rather than natural phenomena.

Scientists say the fact that humans have developed radio signaling makes it a good bet that others may use it as well.

"It doesn't tell you anything about the civilization, but it tells you a civilization is there," said Frank Drake, who with Carl Sagan sent the first physical message into space in 1972, the Pioneer plaques on board the Pioneer 10 US spacecraft. An adviser to Breakthrough Listen, Drake is also chairman emeritus of the SETI Institute.

In addition to checking for radio signals, Breakthrough Listen will hunt for light-based signals using a telescope at the Lick Observatory in California.

Milner announced the initiative in London accompanied by scientists such as Stephen Hawking, the physicist and author. Hawking holds an advisory role on the project.

A physicist by training, Milner joins many successful entrepreneurs and investors with an interest in space, notably SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk, who has said he would like to colonize Mars one day.

Milner made his fortune through a series of early investments in successful startups, like Facebook. He has used some of that money to fund science prizes including the Breakthrough Prize - a set of awards that recognise achievement in life sciences, fundamental physics and maths.

"It's the most interesting technological question of our day," Milner said in an interview, noting that he became fascinated by the notion of extra-terrestrial life after reading astrophysicist Carl Sagan's Intelligent Life in the Universe as a 10-year-old in Moscow.

Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 05:49:27 +0100
Subject: "The Square Kilometre Array

So it's in Australia and South Africa - which probably means they're more interested in stuff south of the ecliptic;  now where have we heard that before - ah yes: Project Wormwood!
The Square Kilometre Array: radio silence in Western Australia for most powerful telescope in history
On a former cattle farm in the remote outback, scientists are laying the ground for the biggest science project of the next 20 years:  a radio telescope capable of picking out something like an airport radar on a planet in another solar system.
Once the project is properly under way - with arrays at this site and another in a remote area of South Africa - it will in effect make up the biggest radio telescope the world has seen. At Murchison alone there will be 130,000 radio antennas in the first phase, and maybe a million in the second, taking care of the lower frequency end of the project.
(more ...)

Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:19:24 +0100
Subject: Forget little green men - aliens will look like humans

These folk don't do much reading;  as Lee Smolin showed, there is no Fermi Paradox!  I.e. the minimum `time between visits' for galactic (or inter-galactic) explorers is probably a couple of hundred million years - 200,000,000 yrs.  So any "signs" or "messages" left by them would have to last at least that long - and be recognized by us!

In addition, as Asimov and Sagan stressed, it's statistically most likely that aliens will be several million or several billion years more advanced than us! [see below]

A senior US astrophysicist said gloomily (in a sci-video I can't find anymore): "They'll regard us like we regard bugs, or bacteria".

Forget little green men - aliens will look like humans, says Cambridge University evolution expert
From E.T to the X-Files, aliens from outer space have captured our imagination for decades.

Yet a new book from a leading evolutionary biologist argues that if they exist and we ever encountered them, they would look very similar to us.

Professor Simon Conway Morris said extra-terrestrials that resemble human beings should have evolved on at least some of the many Earth-like planets that have been discovered by astronomers.

In his new book published on 2 July, The Runes of Evolution, the University of Cambridge academic builds on the principle of convergent evolution - that different species will independently evolve similar features, with the comparison of the camera eye of an octopus and a human eye a favourite example - and argues it will not just took place on Earth.

"An area of biology which is becoming popular, perhaps too popular, that the possibility evolution is becoming much more predictable than people thought," he told The Independent. "The book is really trying to persuade the world that evolutionary convergence is completely ubiquitous. Wherever you look you see it.

"The theme is to try and drive the reader, gently of course, into the possibility that the things which we regard as most important, ie cognitive sophistication, large brains, intelligence, tool making, are also convergent. Therefore, in principle, other Earth-like planets should very much end up with the same sort of arrangement."

Professor Conway Morris, a Fellow at St John's College, said it follows that plant and animal life on other planets able to support life would also look similar to Earth's.

He said: "Certainly it's not the case that every Earth-like planet will have life let alone humanoids. But if you want a sophisticated plant it will look awfully like a flower. If you want a fly there's only a few ways you can do that. If you want to swim, like a shark, there's only a few ways you can do that. If you want to invent warm-bloodedness, like birds and mammals, there's only a few ways to do that.

"The whole business of extra-terrestrial life, Kepler [the most Earth-like planet ever discovered], the search for extra solar planets, and of course the various missions to Mars. This is all going along at such a pace at the moment we can be reasonably sure [any current ideas] might be open to revision in a few years."

His theory leads on to Enrico Fermi's famous paradox - why, if aliens do exist, have they not made contact. He admits his book goes `off-piste for a bit of fun' in the last chapter when dealing with this problem.

Professor Conway Morris said: "Fermi's paradox seems to be coming rather sharply into focus. If I'm on the right track then the likelihood of intelligence is evolving and actively engaging in some sort of transgalatic expeditions doesn't seem to be completely beyond the realm of possibility.

"What Fermi didn't know when he asked that famous question was that the number of Earth-like planets is absolutely gigantic now. More problematic is that many of these solar systems far, far pre-date our solar system. They would have, in principle, a major head start of hundreds of millions, if not billions, of years.

"The problem is exceedingly acute: we shouldn't be alone but, famous last words, all the evidence suggests we are. Maybe [aliens] are hiding, the Arthur C Clarke idea, or as Stephen Baxter mischievously suggested we live in a virtual world. I don't honestly know. My suspicion is we have only begun to scratch at the surface of reality, for want of a better word."

Professor Conway Morris said one of the main themes of his new book was his desire to "re-energise people and get their sense of curiosity running again". Convergence is demonstrable at every point of evolutionary history, he argues, from early cells, through to the emergence of tissues, nervous systems, limbs and the ability to make tools.

He said: "There is a growing interest in convergent evolution but I'm always willing to push it as far as I can. I'll always say `show me anything which has only evolved once' and I'll try and jump up and say `no I can give you another example'.

"Convergence is ubiquitous and if you think complex things are difficult to make, well, with great respect, think again." ---

Just remembered, in light of the aliens' `head start' of maybe billions of years, the Profs. Jack Cohen & Ian Stewart wrote:  "We simply would not know they were here unless they wanted us to" in `Evolving the Alien' 2002 ISBN 0-09-187927-2

Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:59:33 +0100
Subject: Re: "UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015

Thanks Terry - that's all probably to be expected.  When we look back we see it's all a bit murky, from say 1940s onwards.  And definitely got that impression when reading Hynek's own comments in the Blue Book records, say at and on to maybe page 980.


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Terry W. Colvin'
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: "UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015


Project Blue Book officially ended in 1969, after publication of the Condon Report.  There may be a few straggler reports from early 1970.

I searched for four cases.
[Featured in the video:
UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015: The UFO Files: UFOs at War & Underwater UFOs]

1. June 1968, DMZ, Vietnam -- HMAS Hobart, LT Snyder (enemy helicopters are code words for UFOs)

2. April 1951, Iron Triangle, Korea -- (Private Wall and an Army company size element)

3. September 1950, Port of Inchon, North Korea

4. December 26, 1980, Bentwaters Air Base, Rendlesham Forest, United Kingdom

Negative results for these four sightings.

There are 655 matches for "Korea", and as news media, books, and more are often cited in the PBB files; however, the actual number of reports/cases in Korea is quite less.  See:

The following two cases popped up when searching for the four cases above.
( Japan/Korea area, June 1952 )
( Korea, military air, September 1950 )

I do recall an air visual (CIRVIS) report by American aircrew over Korea and a very detailed investigation. The aircrew had extensive experience from WW 2 and Korea. I believe a bomber crew.


-----Original Message-----
> From: "Terry W. Colvin"
> Sent: Jun 28, 2015 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: "UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015

> Ray,
> the correlation will take a bit of compare and contrast. There is a search feature at www dot fold3 dot com. I am now working with the October 1960 reports, fat-fingering these documents to use on the virtual teletype circuits and various mailing lists. During the 1950s the back channel SIGADs were fairly common in the address lines. By the late 1950s these had disappeared; however, several of the commands cited revealed that back channel was still in the loop. I've even seen a couple of Y or DSSCS messages in the files.

I would agree that the public Project Blue Book files are the 'harmless reports'.

On select messages I do amateur analysis and speculate on the credibility of both the reports and the USAF evaluations. One I recall involved eight spherical objects observed from a reconnaissance aircraft a few hundred miles south of Macau. This included radar signals and three separate reports over a month. The USAF evaluation suspected the airborne crews were spotting fishing boats, submarine refuelings, and/or giant manta rays. The radar signals were explained as interference from radars aboard commercial airliners.

-----Original Message-----
From: "'Ray D'
Sent: Jun 27, 2015 11:50 PM
Subject: "UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015

Terry, these MUFON files seem to be mainly of US military encounters from way back in '40s onwards to present date.  It's a bit down-market but gives times/dates + locations - do any of them correlate with your BlueBook files?

(I'd heard that Blue Book was only the `harmless stuff' and that serious sightings were sidetracked to secret files.).

UFO DOCUMENTARY 2015: The UFO Files: UFOs at War & Underwater UFOs

Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:56:40 +0100
Subject: FWD - "Written Communication May Be 40,000 Years Old

The headline actually understates this surprising (to some) research, which says, about the `letters' or `characters': "65% of them were already in regular use 40,000 years ago."
PS - maybe see item below and other links - RD
New Historian | Posted By: Irina Slav | Posted date: May 24, 2015
Written Communication May Be 40,000 Years Old

It's common knowledge that the first systematic use of written symbols as a means of communication emerged in Sumer around 3,000 BCE, but now a Canadian researcher is suggesting that as far back as 40,000 years ago our ancestors communicated in writing. Genevieve von Petzinger, an anthropologist from the University of Victoria, studied hundreds of markings from 300 sites in addition to personally visiting and examining 52 caves where ancient humans had lived located in Spain, Portugal, Italy, and France. She then collected these markings in a database and looked for repeated use of the same symbol as well as for patterns of use for the different symbols.

What she discovered was surprising: there were just 30 symbols that were used repeatedly at these hundreds of sites, and this took place over a period as long as 30,000 years. These repeated uses, however, were not evident in all the caves throughout this period. Commenting on the find, another anthropologist, April Nowell, who teaches at the University of Victoria, told CBC that each of the symbols classified by von Petzinger seems to have gone through its very own "heyday" in one of the regions studied before its use declined. What's more, Nowell noted, the symbols first started being used in one area, for instance in Spain, and then spread to another, such as France.

For von Petzinger there is no question that the symbols she studied had been used intentionally, but what surprised her even more than this intentionality was the fact that 65% of them were already in regular use 40,000 years ago. The reason this is so significant is that this was approximately the time when modern humans came to Europe and started displacing the Neanderthals. If humans were already using a large number of symbols for communication at that time, the origins of written communications may have been even earlier. Von Petzinger told CBC, "it doesn't look like a beginning, it looks like something that's already in practice." The potential implications of this hypothesis, if proven, are major; so far anthropologists have argued that it was only after modern humans moved to Europe that they advanced culturally, developing in a relatively short period what we now consider modern human behaviour. Yet, if it turns out that they had created written communication, which is an instance of abstract thinking, back in Africa, the origins of modern human behaviour would be pushed significantly further back.

So, how is this communications system different from what we now think of as language? After all, language is a system of symbols used to represent anything from physical realities to abstract ideas. The difference is that these early sets of symbols don't seem to be as complex as written language, or at least this is what the researchers believe at the moment. Further work needs to be conducted to try and decipher what the messages in those caves meant and whether there were certain fixed rules about their use. If such rules are found, they would bring these symbol sets much closer to the modern concept of language.

Image courtesy of Wikimedia Commons user: Daniel Miechhen

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:13:25 +0100
Subject: "Oldest stone tools pre-date earliest humans

Can't help noticing, in this and other recent strange finds reports, that they fight shy of asking the obvious question (regarding the real past history of humans).
Oldest stone tools pre-date earliest humans
By Rebecca Morelle
Science Correspondent, BBC News
1 hour ago - 20:11 Wed 20 May 2015
From the section Science & Environment

The world's oldest stone tools have been discovered, scientists report.

They were unearthed from the shores of Lake Turkana in Kenya, and date to 3.3 million years ago.

They are 700,000 years older than any tools found before, even pre-dating the earliest humans in the Homo genus.

The find, reported in Nature, suggests that more ancient species, such as Australopithecus afarensis or Kenyanthropus platyops, may have been more sophisticated than was thought.

"They are significantly earlier than anything that has been found previously," said Dr Nick Taylor, from the National Centre of Scientific Research (CNRS) in France and the University of Leiden in the Netherlands.

"It's really quite astonishing to think what separates the previous oldest site and this site is 700,000 years of time. It's monumental."

The first tools from the site, which is called Lomekwi 3, were discovered in 2011. They were spotted after researchers took a wrong turn as they walked through the hot, dry Kenyan landscape.

By the end of 2012, a total of 149 tools had been found, and another field trip in 2014 has unearthed more still.

They include sharp flakes of stone, sheared off from larger rocks, which were most likely used for cutting.

Hammers and anvils were also excavated, some of which were huge in size.

"The very largest one we have weighs 15kg, which is massive," Dr Taylor told BBC News.

"On this piece, it doesn't show the signs of actually having been flaked to produce other artefacts... rather, it was probably used as an anvil.

"It probably rested in the soil and the other cobbles brought to the site, which were intended to be smashed apart to make tools, were struck against this large anvil."

Dating of the volcanic ash and minerals around the tools suggests that they are 3.3 million years old.

Until this discovery, the oldest examples of this technology were the Oldowan tools from Tanzania, which date to about 2.6 million years ago.

The researchers say the 700,000-year time difference reveals how manufacturing methods and use changed over time, growing more advanced.

The scientists do not know who made the tools discovered in Kenya.
Until now, some thought that Homo habilis - known as "handy man" - was the earliest of our ancestors in the Homo genus to use tools.

But with Homo fossils dating back to only 2.4-2.3 million years ago, it now seems unlikely that this was the first toolmaker.

Other finds, such as animal bones found in Ethiopia with cut marks that date to 3.39 million years ago, also suggest tool use began before H. habilis.

Scientists now believe the 3.3-million-year-old implements were crafted by another, more primitive species.

Dr Taylor said: "There are a number of possible candidates at present.

"There was a hominin called Kenyanthropus platyops, which has been found very close to where the Lomekwi 3 tools are being excavated. And that hominin was around at the time the tools were being made.

"More widely in the East African region there is another hominin, Australopithecus afarensis, which is famously known from the fossil Lucy, which is another candidate."

Neither of these species was assumed to be particularly intelligent - they had both human and ape-like features, with relatively small brains.

However the tools suggest they may have been smarter than assumed.
Dr Ignacio de la Torre, from University College London's Institute of Archaeology, described this as "a game-changing" find.

"It's the most important discovery in the last 50 years," he told BBC News.
"It suggests that species like Australopithecus might have been intelligent enough to make stone tools - that they had the cognitive and manipulative abilities to carry tasks like this out."

Wed, May 20, 2015 - 9:08 PM
Choong K**** Y****** wrote:

I too has been following Linda's work during the late 90s and during that time everything is just hot and I did request printed materials from her organisation;

talking about that there is an idea in me that since the new X-Files series will commence soon Chris Carter should make an episode featuring her cameo because in reality what she is doing is real life X-Files.

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:45:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Linda Moulton Howe

Yup, have known for a while that Linda was targeted by USAF Special Agencies and CIA with lots of scams and fake "lowdowns" - seems they really wanted to put her in a position where she could be ridiculed (and out of their hair).

What I didn't know was a) her background and experience in [the sciences] etc and journalism and b) the extraordinary stuff she'd found and been given way back at the start of the cattle mutilation saga.  No wonder the PTB wanted her out of the way - her word (and her investigative abilities) carried a lot of weight with police and medical folk etc.

I think some of her long-term conclusions, while startling to the general public, are cold, clear logic, drawn from her total experiences and case-files.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: Linda Moulton Howe

She has a lot of videos on YouTube. Also on [USA] TV
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 01:22:26 +0100
Subject: Linda Moulton Howe

Last night was watching a `Dark Journalist' video (he's pretty good at what he does) and then followed it with another, him talking with Linda Moulton Howe.

It surprised me quite a bit, because I'd thought I knew all about her - but no way.

Now think there's a lot more to Linda, and her experiences and her conclusions, that might surprise you too, or even shock.
Join Dark Journalist as he interviews acclaimed investigative reporter, Emmy award winning TV producer and star of Ancient Aliens and Coast to Coast AM, Linda Moulton Howe in a special extended episode that delves deeply into her career of exposing the controversial alien reality.
Linda Moulton Howe - UK forces US to confirm UFO incident!
Dr J Andy Ilias interviewed Linda Moulton Howe on March 14 2015 on Dr J Radio LIVE). Hear so much from this Emmy award winning journalist and check out her website at and also, come see her at CITD!

Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 17:38:15 +0100
Subject: "The strange sounds in the sky are back in force!

Thanks to everyone who posted this and linked reports on social media.  In response to this guy's query ("What do you think it is?") I really don't know:
if it's not something being generated external to Earth (say by Solar electrical effects, or unique planetary alignments causing electro-gravitational strains), then I'd really like to see a (truthful) log of HAARP's operations - maybe they correlate?

If not, then perhaps the approaching pole-flip might be a cause - it's a long time since the last one so no-one knows the possible accompanying effects.

Ray D

The weird noises in the sky are increasing baffling people around the world:
April 2015 - May 2015

The strange sounds in the sky are back in force!

Here a compilation of the most recent spooky sounds from around the world. What do you think they are?

Strange sounds are back in Terrace, British Columbia, Canada - May 7, 2015

Weird noises in the sky over Kentucky - May 5, 2015

Loud noise over Belfast - May 5, 2015

Strange sounds around the world in Russia - May 5, 2015

Strange trumpet sounds in sky of Iceland - April 29, 2015

Eerie sky sound over Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada - April 25, 2015

San Francisco weird noise in the sky - April 15, 2015

Apocalyptic sounds in France - April 6, 2015

Weird humming noise in Colorado - April 6 2015

Strange noise from the sky in Japan - April 6, 2015

Pretty creepy no? What is going on right now? Tell me your theories!

Visit the largest list of strange sounds around the world on this webpage!

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Mac****
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: "The strange sounds in the sky are back in force!

Hi Ray,
Have you any ideas at all as to what is causing these weird sounds ?

Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 19:14:52 +0100
Subject: Re: "The strange sounds in the sky are back in force!

Nope - although posted some alternatives in my last (above) - and here's a quote I just sent to a lady friend who was asking much the same question:

"Yes several people are asking about those sky-noises and there are many explanations being floated, some extreme and even religious. The noises are often very different in tone and modulation but all seem to give the impression of great `strain' or imbalance of forces - scary enough to wake primitive (and religious) fear reactions - maybe rightly."

BTW - also sent this "PS don't know about September but from the 26th to 29th of this month there's an alignment of Saturn - Earth - Mercury - Sun - Mars which _might_ induce quakes +/or volcanics and almost certainly WILL bring an outburst in the Sun's surface (they take c. a week to develop), the biggest facing to our side - but maybe fortunately it will have rotated a bit by then (although Earth is also orbiting in same direction)." - RD

Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 12:07:59 +0100
Subject: Exo-planet News (and Earth)

News today of `exoplanets':-  the count has risen into the thousands (confirmed) and several more thousands are waiting confirmation, as can be seen here

Some of the very close ones might be spectroscopically examined right now (and no doubt have been - see below) but most will have to wait for more powerful scopes to be built and launched into orbit, but I doubt we will get to know the results anyway.

Why?  Well, one technical tool given by the Gaia hypothesis of Lovelock and Margulis: spectroscopic analysis of light from a distant planet, can tell us if there is life on that planet, and even give a reasonable shot at guessing what sort of chemical basis and metabolism that life has.

I.e. as Lovelock told NASA (when he was working with them) a dead planet's atmosphere will always tend to a `reduced' state (as Venus and Mars are both said to have, despite the huge differences in temperatures there), while a live planet will always have a large `signature' of products of life (gasses which are short-lived and so must be continually replaced by living things).

In Earth's case those short-lived and vital gasses are Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, Nitrogen, Carbon Monoxide, Methane etc. - sure signs of carbon-based life-forms living and breathing (and eating and excreting).  That is, plants breath carbon dioxide and produce oxygen (which would immediately disappear without those plants), while we animals breath the oxygen and use it to convert our food into carbon dioxide and other gasses.

Thing is, life doesn't have to be carbon-based (although at our temperatures and water-humidity carbon seems the best bet) so the presence of different short-lived gasses in an exo-planet's atmosphere could indicate exotic life-forms with strange metabolisms (silicon, sulphur, iron combinations have been suggested for some conditions), while more extreme planets (gas-giants riven by perpetual electrical storms) might harbour even stranger life-patterns, like plasma beings (shown by `un-natural' patterns of electrical charge and discharge in the atmosphere).

So, like I said, we shouldn't expect the `powers that be' to tell us the results of any spectroscopic analyses done to-date, those PTB seem determined to keep the `status quo' as it is - maybe check present.html.

Ray D
by Staff Writers | Toronto, Canada (SPX) May 13, 2015

Weather forecasts for planets beyond our solar system
Using sensitive observations from the Kepler space telescope, the researchers have uncovered evidence of daily weather cycles on six extra-solar planets seen to exhibit different phases. Such phase variations occur as different portions of these planets reflect light from their stars, similar to the way our own moon cycles though different phases.
Among the findings are indications of cloudy mornings on four of them and hot, clear afternoons on two others.
(more ...)

Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 06:47:40 +0100
Subject: "Weird dream? Your brain won't even try to make sense of it

Yup same here - in a way.  I.e. travel often features in my dreams and the means can morph from driving (usually a car or military vehicle of some sort) to walking or even swimming, all without any decision on my part.
18:10 29 April 2015 by Jessica Hamzelou
Weird dream? Your brain won't even try to make sense of it

You open your front door to find your boss - who is also a cat. The bizarre can seem completely normal when you're dreaming, perhaps because parts of your brain give up trying to figure out what's going on.

Armando D'Agostino of the University of Milan in Italy thinks that the strangeness of dreams resembles psychosis, because individuals are disconnected from reality and have disrupted thought processes that lead to wrong conclusions.

Hoping to learn more about psychotic thoughts, D'Agostino and his colleagues investigated how our brains respond to the bizarre elements of dreams.

Because it is all but impossible to work out what a person is dreaming about while they're asleep, D'Agostino's team asked 12 people to keep diaries in which they were to write detailed accounts of seven dreams. When volunteers could remember one, they were also told to record what they had done that day and come up with an unrelated fantasy story to accompany an image they had been given.

Using a "bizarreness" scoring system, the researchers found that dreams were significantly weirder than the waking fantasies the volunteers composed. "It seems counterintuitive, but there was almost no bizarreness in fantasies," says D'Agostino. "There are logical constraints on waking fantasies and they are never as bizarre as a dream."

Powering down
A month later, the reports were read back to each of the dreamers while their brain activity was monitored with an fMRI scanner. Both dreams and fantasies seemed to selectively activate a set of structures in the right hemisphere of the brain associated with complex language processing, such as understanding multiple meanings of a word.

Curiously, the activity in this area appeared to decrease as the narrative became increasingly bizarre. It is almost as if the brain is giving up trying to make sense of the dream, says D'Agostino.

"It's a legitimate theory," says Patrick McNamara at Boston University. He thinks that dreams may act as symbols in a process that consolidates and stores memories. Bizarreness may be the result of the brain's attempt to symbolise complex emotions. "When emotions are intense, they are harder to symbolise, so perhaps the dreams are more likely to be bizarre," he says.

But Bill Domhoff at the University of California in Santa Cruz is opposed to the idea of comparing dreams to psychosis, partly because not all dreams are bizarre. "Dreaming is not hallucinatory and psychotic," he says. "It is an intensified form of mind-wandering."

Journal reference: Journal of Sleep Research, DOI: 10.1111/jsr.12299

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 03:21:11 +0100
Subject: FWD - Non-excluded Middles [was: Dinosaurs and Humans]

Non-excluded Middles [was: Dinosaurs and Humans]

Many so-called scientists use the `law of excluded middle' (which really should only be used in mathematics, and carefully even then) whereby they make a proposition, then prove that its opposite (or negation) is untrue, and so automatically conclude their proposition MUST be true.

Not so!

So I feel able to make use of data from sources which seem to be opposed to each other's ideas or concepts.  And the good thing about `convinced' or even fanatical folk is that they have the motivation to do lots of weary research - as these creationist folk have done for this excellent video.
"Dinosaur didn't die 65 millions years ago, they are still alive today"

Like they say: how could all those folk, all over the world, throughout history, make accurate drawings, carvings and even written accounts of what we now know as various types of real dinosaurs if they hadn't actually seen them, or at least had recent [accurate] accounts of them?

Ray D

PS - note for modern `scientists' - being convinced and wrong feels exactly the same as being convinced and right.

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 00:56:07 +0100
Subject: Marco Polo's Dragons [was: Dinosaurs and Humans]

Marco Polo's Dragons [was: Dinosaurs and Humans]

Idly listening to a soundtrack of a slowish video (while doing a crossword) and heard Marco Polo mentioned along with Dragons, so did a search and it seems to be true - Marco Polo DID write about coming across living `dragons' maybe thirty or so feet long - here's some quotes:


Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:46:31 +0100
Subject: Dinosaurs and Humans

Like most of us with interest in these matters I've done some reading on Sumer (and later Babylonia) and separately on ancient Egypt.

Mesopot Seal Today was browsing those OOPARTS (below) at a creationist site and came across an image they said was evidence for dinosaurs in human history.  It was a Sumerian (Mesopotamian) cylinder seal and its impression, showing two long-necked `saurians' with their necks intertwined. It is at the Louvre Museum in Paris and is dated to 3,300 BCE.

Narmer's thing That immediately reminded me of `Narmer's Palette' which, on the back has a similar image of intertwined saurians. Wiki says that `Palette' dates to 3,100 BCE and Egyptologists (the most opinionated and least intelligent `scientists' I know of) say the two saurians represent the unification of Egypt - Crap!

Now most `experts' claim there wasn't [hardly] any interaction between Sumer and Egypt (although they were both active at the same time and not too far away from each other) mainly on the basis that there was no linkage of Sumerian writing (cuneiform) with Egyptian hieroglyphs.

So what do these almost identical images of `impossible' dinosaurs, one found in Egypt and one in Sumer, actually mean?


Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:01:51 +0100
Subject: RE: Early Civs maybe (a lot) earlier

A day or so ago there was that "290 million year old human footprint", now there's "The 400 million year old hammer" plus a speculative piece titled "An Atomic Bomb went off on Earth 12000 years ago?".

Which reminds me of the "Forbidden Archeology" series, started by Michael Cremo et al,
maybe overlapping with many of those OOPARTS (out of place artefacts), some listed at (creationist site).

So maybe there's reason to take the subject of Earlier Civilizations seriously?


Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:06:56 +0100
Subject: "290 million year old human footprint has researchers scratching their heads

Interesting.  Seems there's a mass of evidence accumulating to indicate humans were around a lot earlier than the text-books say.
290 million year old human footprint has researchers scratching their heads

Is it possible that we have history all wrong? That the dates that conventional history is giving us regarding mankind are all incorrect? That humans lived on Earth much sooner that science originally thought so? With all of the recent discoveries that are being made, it certainly seems like a possibility. A Possibility that mainstream scholars seem to have a problem with, since that would mean our history book would need to be rewritten? The origin of man and the fundamentals of religions would change a lot, and that is something that mainstream scholars cannot possibly deal with.

At first this footprint might not seem like much, as you can probably come across it anywhere on Earth, but this is no ordinary footprint. You can obviously see the anatomy of it, it resembles a modern-day human foot, but the thing is, this footprint is fossilized and embedded into a stone that researchers believe is at around 290 million years old. That is a gigantic missing period of time that if proven to be accurate will change a lot of things in society as we know it today.

The discovery of the 290 million year old footprint was made in New Mexico by paleontologist Jerry MacDonald in 1987. In the vicinity of this mysterious footprint there are fossilized impressions of birds and other animals.
(more at page ... )

Thanks to Elizabeth Douthitt

Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:12:00 +0100
Subject: "Mysterious Hot Spot Shows Up On US Thermal Map, East of Four Corners

Interesting;  checking the pic - (also here and close-up) - you can see  the `hotspot' is roughly over Farmington, scene of the biggest, best witnessed UFO fleet ever (1950).
Mysterious Hot Spot Shows Up On US Thermal Map, East of Four Corners
Posted on Apr 12 2015 - 2:55pm by Deborah Grace

There is a magical land in the American Southwest called `The Four Corners.'
This is the only place in the United States where four states come to meet at a perfect intersection - one corner of each of four states meet at the same point, hence the name.

Those states are Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah. Ok, it is not a `magical place,' but it is pretty cool.
However, at least for now, the Four Corners is a bit more mysterious as researchers from NASA and the University of Michigan have noticed a hot spot about 2,500 sq miles wide just due east of the famous landmark.

For all intents and purposes, this thermal distortion is about half the size of Connecticut.

The researchers noticed this spot by looking at old mappings from satellite data collected between 2003 and 2009. They conclude that the hotspot is a collection of very potent greenhouse gas (like methane) and suspect that, perhaps, it is leaking from a natural gas operation somewhere within the San Juan Basin. This is the most productive coalbed methane site in the whole country; so that theory certainly holds water.

NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientist Christian Frankenberg comments, "With all the ground-based and airborne resources that the different groups are bringing to the region, we have the unique chance to unequivocally solve the Four Corners mystery."

Over the next year, scientists will continue to study the data to learn as much as they can about the anomaly.
Furthermore, CIRES scientist Gabrielle Pétron, comments, "If we can verify the methane detected by the satellite and identify its sources, decision-makers will have critical information for any actions they are considering."
The good news is that if they can determine the hotspot is manmade then we know we can take action to reduce its impact.

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:10:13 -0000
Subject: Is USA's DOE [CIA] looking to `implement earthquakes?'

Is USA's DOE [CIA?] looking to `implement earthquakes?'
The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) asked JASON to conduct a short study of the science and technology enabling improved measurement, characterization, and understanding of the state of stress in engineered subsurface systems of the Earth's crust. The Study Charge reads:
`Successful utilization of the vast majority of U.S. energy resources fundamentally hinges on understanding and controlling the mechanical deformation of rocks in the upper crust. ....


Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:45:54 -0000
Subject: "Scientists in US are urged to seek contact with aliens

Ha!  These publicity-hungry folk (yes I do mean Shostak et al) seem incapable of joined-up thinking.

Like I've said many times (think latest detailed critique was six or seven years ago - see,  SETI has only been looking for `primitives' at our own stage of evolution [i.e. those using crude radio signals, so only about 200 years of technology].

Now look at that the other way round, as SETI plans to _send_ crude radio signals:
It means we will be announcing - to all and sundry - that _we're_ only primitives!
BBC News, San Jose | 12 February 2015 Last updated at 19:38
By Pallab Ghosh - Science correspondent

Scientists in US are urged to seek contact with aliens

Scientists at a US conference have said it is time to try actively to contact intelligent life on other worlds.

Researchers involved in the search for extra-terrestrial life are considering what the message from Earth should be.

The call was made by the Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence institute at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Jose.

But others argued that making our presence known might be dangerous.

Researchers at the Seti institute have been listening for signals from outer space for more than 30 years using radio telescope facilities in the US. So far there has been no sign of ET.

The organisation's director, Dr Seth Shostak, told attendees to the AAAS meeting that it was now time to step up the search.

"Some of us at the institute are interested in 'active Seti', not just listening but broadcasting something to some nearby stars because maybe there is some chance that if you wake somebody up you'll get a response," he told BBC News.

The concerns are obvious, but sitting in his office at the institute in Mountain View, California, in the heart of Silicon Valley, he expresses them with characteristic, impish glee.

"A lot of people are against active Seti because it is dangerous. It is like shouting in the jungle. You don't know what is out there; you better not do it. If you incite the aliens to obliterate the planet, you wouldn't want that on your tombstone, right?"

I couldn't argue with that. But initially, I could scarcely believe I was having this conversation at a serious research institute rather than at a science fiction convention. The sci-fi feel of our talk was underlined by the toy figures of bug-eyed aliens that cheerfully decorate the office.

But Dr Shostak is a credible and popular figure and has been invited to present his arguments.

Leading astronomers, anthropologists and social scientists will gather at his institute after the AAAS meeting for a symposium to flesh out plans for a proposal for active Seti to put to the public and politicians.

High on the agenda is whether such a move would, as he put it so starkly, lead to the "obliteration" of the planet.

"I don't see why the aliens would have any incentive to do that," Dr Shostak tells me.

"Beyond that, we have been telling them willy-nilly that we are here for 70 years now. They are not very interesting messages but the early TV broadcasts, the early radio, the radar from the Second World War - all that has leaked off the Earth.

"Any society that could come here and ruin our whole day by incinerating the planet already knows we are here."

Clash of cultures
His argument isn't entirely reassuring. But neither is the one made by David Brin, a science fiction writer invited to speak at the AAAS meeting, who opposes the plan.

"Historians will tell you that first contact between industrial civilisations and indigenous people does not go well," he told me.

Mr Brin believes that those in favour of active Seti have been "railroading the public into sending a message without a wide and detailed discussion of what the cultural impact might be".

He does not fear a Hollywood-style alien invasion and thinks the likelihood of making contact is extremely low. But the risks, he argues, are extremely high and so merit careful consideration before anyone sends out a signal to potentially habitable worlds.

"The arrogance of shouting into the cosmos without any proper risk assessment defies belief. It is a course that would put our grandchildren at risk," he said.

Also on the agenda at the active Seti symposium is that if we are to send a message to ET - what should it be?

Some involved in the discussions believe we should send a sanitised account of ourselves, leaving out parts of our history we aren't proud of and putting a positive spin on our achievements - as if our species were attending a job interview or first date. Dr Shostak disagrees. He thinks the only way to win over the aliens is to be ourselves.

"My personal preference is to send the internet - send it all because if you send a lot of information then there's some chance that they'll work it out".

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 10:15:55 -0000
Subject: "Sanskrit shocker! Claims of 7,000yo inter-planetary planes shake up Indian Science Congress

Heck, that brought the extremists out!  Regardless of the "scientific" claim, any so-called scientist who wants to ban anything usually turns out to be an ignorant bully - and wrong!

[Remember the Velikovsky affair - when all the great and good of the science elite ganged up to lie and misquote - and after some years all their lies (and mistakes) were exposed: Velikovsky was proved right about almost all the forecasts he'd made. In particular, even Sagan was revealed as suddenly dishonourable at the end of his career.]  And Halton Arp is/was lately in the same situation as Velikovsky - see

PS - maybe picked this up due to an old interest in Sanskrit; still occasionally use the dictionary and grammar when talking to call center workers or IT acquaintances

Sanskrit shocker! Claims of 7,000yo inter-planetary planes shake up Indian Science Congress
Published time: January 05, 2015 14:44

Ancient knives so sharp they could slit a hair in two, 24-carat gold extracted from cow dung and even 7,000-year-old planes that could travel to other planets. Those are just a couple of the startling claims made at this week's Indian Science Congress.

The surprising discoveries based on ancient Hindu texts, such as the Vedas and the Puranas, were presented at a session on "Ancient Indian Sciences through Sanskrit," held for the first time in the history of the Indian Science Congress, which took place for the 102nd time in Mumbai on Sunday.

One of the more controversial lectures, presented by Captain Anand Bodas, a retired principal of a pilot training facility, was dedicated to ancient airplane technology. "There is a reference to ancient aviation in the Rigveda," Bodas said.

"The basic structure was of 60 by 60 feet, and in some cases, over 200 feet. They were jumbo planes," Bodas said. "The ancient planes had 40 small engines. Today's aviation does not know even of a flexible exhaust system."

The ancient aircraft could not only move in any direction, but travel between planets, Captain Bodas claimed.

The more than 3,000-year-old manuscript also described ancient pilots' diet and clothes. According to Bodas, during specific periods pilots drank the milk of buffalo, cow and sheep, and they wore clothes made from vegetation grown underwater.

"Now we have to import aeroplane alloys. The young generation should study the alloys mentioned in his book [Vimana Samhita by Maharishi Bharadwaj] and make them here," Bodas said.

Bodas's bodacious claims infuriated other participants in the congress, however.

NASA scientist Ram Prasad Gandhiraman started an online petition, demanding that the Indian Science Congress to cancel Bodas's lecture, because it mixed mythology and science. "If we scientists remain passive, we are betraying not only the science, but also our children," said the petition, which was signed by over 1,000 people. Overall, in the last couple of weeks dozens of scientists slammed the idea to give a platform to "pseudoscience."

However, the organizers of the congress, which unites over 30,000 Indian scientists, believed they were reviving the "vast knowledge of science" contained in the Indian holy texts.

At last Saturday's ceremony at the beginning of the conference, Prime Minister Narendra Modi urged the nation's scientists to "explore the mysteries of science."

"We in India are the inheritors of a thriving tradition of Indian science and technology since ancient times' mathematics and medicine, metallurgy and mining, calculus and textiles, architecture and astronomy," said Modi, who is a Hindu nationalist. "The contribution of Indian civilization to human knowledge and advancement has been rich and varied."

Union minister for environment, Prakash Javadekar, stressed the possibility to find application of ancient Indian concepts of technology in the modern world. "Scientists of ancient India, who lacked sophisticated tools or machines, developed accurate scientific concepts based on minute observations and logic," he said, The Hindustan Times reported.

Among other technologies, introduced at the congress there were polymers to build houses, made of cactus juice, egg shells and cow dung; a cow bacteria that turns anything eaten by an animal into pure gold, and the curious procedure of an autopsy, conducted by leaving a dead body floating in water for three days.

Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:27:20 -0000
Subject: "Our lives in 2025: What the world will be like in 10 years' time

Some partly newish stuff but most has been discussed by folk like Ray Kurzweil et al.  Personally side with Roger Penrose who raises the problem that `brain uploads' or `consciousness tranfer' probably always means the destruction of the original.   Who's going to volunteer to have his brain wiped?
Our lives in 2025: What the world will be like in 10 years' time
Dec 26, 2014 21:26 By Rohit Talwar

Our world is being transformed by rapid advances in sciences and technology that are touching every aspect of our lives.

So what changes could these developments bring about for life as we know it? We only have to look around us to see just how much can change in a relatively short space of time.

Our lives have been shaped by developments which most of us couldn't have imagined a decade ago. For example, handheld devices such as smartphones and tablets now allow us to have live video conversations with our friends, translate instantaneously between multiple languages, watch full length videos and monitor diverse aspects of our health from blood pressure to oxygen flow and stress levels.

3D printing is now being used to create everything from blood cells to entire houses, while new aircraft such as the A380 can carry over 800 passengers on a single flight.

As we look ahead, the decade could be shaped by advances in nanotechnology, information technology, vertical farming, artificial intelligence, robotics, 4D printing, super-smart materials, neuroscience, the biological sciences and genetics.

Here we take a brief look at 10 scenarios exploring how some of these developments could come together and impact different aspects of our world by 2025:

Human 2.0
Human augmentation will accelerate in the next decade. By 2025 we will be witnessing a new breed of human 2.0 and 3.0 who have `hacked' their own bodies. Brain-enhancing drugs are already a reality and we can now have super-smart prosthetic limb replacements that have greater functionality than the ones we were born with. Both fields will continue to progress and we will see genetic treatments to eliminate conditions such as rage and obesity.
All of these enhancements will be monitored and managed 24/7 by a variety of wearable technologies and devices implanted into our bodies. These will help us track every vital sign and link directly to both our own handheld devices and to monitoring services provided by our healthcare providers. 3D printing already allows us to create replacement body parts. The evolution to 4D printing - where objects make themselves - will enable the manufacture of body parts that can self assemble and adapt their shape and properties over time, giving us limbs that could reinforce themselves as we age.

National Sovereignty
The map of the globe will change - driven by economic forces. Many smaller and poorer countries may find it impossible to cope on their own with the accelerating pace of change and the cost of keeping up to speed with a globally connected planet. By 2025, we could see between 20 and 25 country mergers as `at risk' nations seek to come together to create the critical economic strength and attract the investment required to serve their populations and compete in the hyper-connected era.

Corporate Giants
It will all be about the new kids on the block. Half the largest publicly listed companies in 2025 will come from firms that did not even exist in 2014. We will see an ever-increasing number of so called `exponential companies' that achieve rapid rates of growth by using science and technology to disrupt old industries and create new ones. For example, the taxi app Uber didn't even exist in 2008 and is now valued at more than £25billion while a number of new technology-based businesses such as AirBnB and Snapchat are already valued at over £6billion. Many more mega-growth players will emerge in sectors such as driverless cars, 3D and 4D printing, genetics and web-based applications and services that we can't even imagine today.

Financial Services
By 2025, the financial services landscape will have been transformed by digital currencies like the Bitcoin, open markets and a wave of new providers offering crowd based solutions for everything from insurance to equity investment and commercial financing. These community platforms will let us lend to and invest in each other - bypassing the existing providers of saving, business investment, loans and personal insurance. Some argue that the notion of public stock markets will have been transformed by more efficient online crowd funding platforms and the widespread use of digital currencies that effectively create a single global monetary system.

Brain Uploading
It won't be long before we will have mapped how the human brain works and technology companies will be competing to host the `back up' of our brains online - like a brain cloud. Three major projects in Europe, the USA and China are currently involved in major research activities to understand how the brain stores information and memories. This will ultimately allow us to create memory back-ups with the information stored remotely via an online service provider in exactly the same way as many of us already do with the data on our computers and mobile devices.

By 2025 technology advances will give rise to new immersive live and virtual leisure experiences. For example, we will be able to become participants in live action adventures games from Roman battles to re-running the Olympic 100 metres final with robots performing the roles of the other contestants.

Mixed Reality Living
The boundaries between virtual and physical worlds will have disappeared by 2025 as we overlay multiple layers of digital sensory augmentation over our physical environment. Augmented and virtual reality will have advanced to the point where we can stimulate all our senses over the internet and via our handheld devices. So, for example, when booking a hotel, these developments would enable us to feel the bed linens, taste the food in the restaurant and smell the bath products - all from a device in the palm of our hands.

The replacement of humans by robots in manufacturing has been taking place for two decades - it is now spreading to a wide range of other sectors such elder care, crop spraying and warehouse management. By 2025 robots will have entered every aspect of human life and will be commonplace - performing functions as diverse as nursing, complex surgery, policing and security, through to construction, retail and hotel service roles. All of the major vehicle manufacturers are working on autonomous or driverless cars - a form of robot that we will see coming to market in the next few years.

Artificial Intelligence
Breakthroughs in Artificial Intelligence (AI) are accelerating - with the development of computer software that has the capacity to mimic humans' ability to learn and adapt over time to changing circumstances. AI is already in widespread use in applications such as satnav systems, aeroplane autopilots, assessing credit and loan applications in financial services, automated call centres and healthcare diagnoses. Advances +in AI will gather pace in the next decade. For example, by 2025, the interfaces to all our devices from phones to computers, cars and home appliances will be highly intelligent and adaptive - learning from our behaviours and choices and anticipating our needs.

Internet of Life
In the next decade upwards of 100 billion objects from smartphones to street lamps and our cars will be connected together via a vast `internet of everything'. This will impact every aspect of our lives - for example it could transform the criminal justice system. By 2025, evidence in a court case will include data taken from body worn cameras and microphones and sensors in everyday objects such as clothing, furniture and even our coffee cups - proving exactly what happened and who was present at the scene of a crime. Rohit Talwar is CEO of Fast Future Research

Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 11:54:12 -0000
Subject: FWD - Did the Ancient Chinese Make Contact With Native Americans?

Interesting stuff - lots of illustrations, matching the rock-carved American `glyphs' to ancient Chinese `oracle bone' symbols.
Did the Ancient Chinese Make Contact With Native Americans?
By Tara MacIsaac, Epoch Times | Last Updated: December 6, 2014 1:15 pm

It is commonly held that Native Americans are descended from people who traveled across the what is known today as the Bering Strait, between Siberia and Alaska, some 10,000 years ago. At the time, water levels were low and a land bridge emerged, connecting the continents. It is also commonly held that from the time of this crossing until about 1000 A.D. when the Vikings arrived, no expeditions brought explorers or colonists from the Old World to the New.

Yet some say that puzzling artifacts, as well as the results of recent DNA studies performed on Native Americans, may suggest contact between ancient China and North America.

John A. Ruskamp Jr. is a research analyst who has compared ancient Native American glyphs with ancient Chinese pictograms, finding what he says is a sure match between the two. The glyphs and pictograms date to a period long after the Bering Land Bridge crossing and long before modern contact between Chinese and Native American cultures. Geneticist Dr. Donald Yates has studied Native American DNA, finding what he believes may be genetic links to colonists from China's ancient or medieval periods of history.

Yates hypothesizes that Native American genealogy is not as simple as commonly held. He says the ancestors of today's Native Americans may not have come in a single migration. He thinks other boats may have landed on the shores of the New World, carrying explorers unknown to historians today.

We will briefly look at some of Ruskamp's and Yates's findings here.

Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:11:27 -0000
Subject: Some chats on Sci-Fi

Seems they're doing a series of (loosely) linked Sci-Fi chats.  Other day heard one which was mainly on Iain M Banks, and then this one:
Tom Sutcliffe explores our relationship with computer technology and the interplay of alien and familiar in science fiction. Tom's joined in the studio by writer William Gibson, novelist Michel Faber, LSE Professor Judy Wajcman and historian Dominic Sandbrook. How have computer technologies transformed our sense of outer space, cyber space and our own inner space?
Producer: Simon Tillotson
Now today see this advertized:
Fear or Wonder: Everything Under the Moon
Free Thinking, 2014 Festival

Naomi Alderman, Roger Luckhurst and BALTIC curator Alessandro Vincentelli join Matthew Sweet to discuss how science fiction and space travel change our view of this world and to discuss whether the limits of our knowledge about the future make us scared or optimistic? BALTIC's They Used To Call It The Moon brings together artworks to reflect the new space race. The BFI has curated a 3 month season of science fiction film screenings and events around the UK.

Professor Roger Luckhurst from Birkbeck College, University of London has written about J. G. Ballard, a cultural history of science fiction, and about the film Alien for the BFI Classic book series.
Naomi Alderman is a novelist and author of many short stories which consider the future. She is also co-creator of the online game Zombies, Run!
Alessandro Vincentelli is Curator of Exhibitions & Research at BALTIC and has curated the exhibition They Used to Call it the Moon which runs until January 11th.
The Star and Shadow cinema in Newcastle is running a series of science fiction film screenings and events.

Recorded in front of an audience at Sage, Gateshead as part of Radio 3's Free Thinking Festival of Ideas. Part of a series of programmes on BBC Radio 3 exploring science fiction.
All the discussions and essays from the Free Thinking festival are available as Radio 3 Arts and Ideas downloads.

Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:00:07 -0000
Subject: Re: `Dispatches from the Front Line of Science'

Hi Choong,
thanks for the reminder about the "Archons" - here's what I just accidentally found:

and there's a very interesting quote from Fred Hoyle that I didn't know about before (have great respect for his work in physics and astrophysics - he'd earned two or three Nobles but was not recognized because he was `anti-establishment') - Ray

QUOTE On May 10, 1971, the noted British Astrophysics and Astronomer, called a news conference and made the following, startling announcement:

"Human beings are simply pawns in a great game, being played by alien minds, which control mankind's every move.

These alien minds came from another universe, one with five dimensions.  Their laws of chemistry and physics are completely different from ours.  They have learned to shatter the TIME/SPACE barriers that restrict us.

These super-intelligent entities are so different from us that to apprehend them or to describe them in human terms is impossible.

These entities seem to be totally free from any such physical restrictions as bodies, and they are more like pure intelligence.

They seem to have the ability to be almost anywhere in the universe in a matter of seconds.

These aliens are everywhere - in the sky, under the sea, on Earth.  They have been here for countless aeons and they have probably controlled the evolution of Homo-sapiens.  All of what man has built and become was accomplished because of the `tinkering' of these intelligent forces."

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Dickenson
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: `Dispatches from the Front Line of Science'

Hi Choong,
Right, that "Archons of Destiny" thing is a good example.  If we speculate that they are simply very advanced beings then the mystery is merely put off one `generation'.
But if they are / were beings of non-material form then things get more interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: Choong K** Y***
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: `Dispatches from the Front Line of Science'

Hi Ray, suffice to say it is time for them to ask which one come first., consciousness or reality in order to get into the "Source code" of the program and nail the programmer, but this universe is very old that all kinds of entity are in existence that spirituality itself is a main separate interest of it own and to that the whole topic would be devoid of essence by not mentioning of what Rob's main idea of the Archons of Destiny but in a techie sense that would be in pursuit of the "Master programmer" but some later comer of the system has hacked the system and hijacked it for further modifications of manipulations and for sci-fi buffs that would be a Star Trek question that the journey of USS Enterprise never ends.

On 06-Nov-14 1:08 AM, Ray Dickenson wrote:
Just read (twice) Marcus Chown's `Dispatches from the Front Line of Science' (main title - "The Never-Ending Days of Being Dead") where he covers the cutting-edge theories interesting top scientists (and scaring some) today.

Won't comment on most of it (try Amazon reviews) but it did give a reasonable description of Stephen Wolfram's ideas: -

Basically, Wolfram (a child prodigy and mathematical genius who's _really_ upset a lot of scientists [who criticized his big book _before_ they'd read it - just like Velikovsky's]) has proved that only _simple_ phenomena are amenable to scientific (i.e. mathematical) description - using equations etc.

[That is, throwing a baseball / cricketball is a simple event which can be isolated from surroundings and expressed in an equation which will give you the ball's locations, or velocities, or accelerations.]

But complex phenomena - like turbulent fluids (oceans/atmospheres etc), most biology, culture, consciousness etc - are NOT expressible by equations.

Reason is - they are engendered by the re-iteration of simple programs, over and over again, which causes complex results to emerge, in time.  But you can't reduce the activity to a mathematical short-cut - you simply have to let the programs play out until the results emerge.

So Wolfram seems to have theorized (hope he'll forgive me if I'm misreading it) that the whole universe might be the result of ONE simple program (maybe only four lines of it) being reiterated for some billions of years.

So first the program, maybe spontaneously arising in a primal force, (or maybe operated by a superior intelligence), jiggles the force to create first electro-magnetism, then simple matter (hydrogen - one proton, one electron), after which nuclear forces (and gravity) are automatic further products, along with the whole periodic table of familiar matter.

The stage is now set for the emergence of organic life - produced by further jiggling of the same simple program - and organic life will develop intelligence and consciousness (because they give evolutionary advantage).  Which leads to US.

But the simple program is still operating (unless that putative superior intelligence switched it off).

So, should we be expecting another echelon of development, of life and intelligence, maybe in an extreme mode of matter like plasma, to be arising now?  Perhaps in planetary cores?  (or the interior of stars?).

If so, will it be the second - or the third?

THIRD?  How come? - Well, forgot to mention - in the primal stage, before any `secondary forces' existed, the program could've jiggled the primal force into self-regenerating patterns (like standing waves which could maintain themselves by absorbing vibrations from outside) which could develop intelligence and consciousness (because that would give advantage in finding those external vibrations, and in "eating" them).

And that first echelon of intelligent life and consciousness would've been (and might still be) very powerful, not only because they are embodied in the primal force which gives matter, mass and inertia / momentum, but because they are also invisible to us and have the power to absorb our thought processes ("vibrations") maybe as food.  And they've had a good head start - of many billions of years.

BTW - a few years ago, before knowing Wolfram's full thoughts, had developed that same theme into a scenario - at friend-foe.html and haven't got around to amending it after reading Wolfram's latest.

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:10:43 -0000
Subject: "Miracle Planet - Part I: The Violent Past

Maybe don't watch if of a nervous disposition. About ten to fifteen mins in, there starts a remarkable simulation of an impact (in the modern Pacific) by a 500 mile wide asteroid.
Very horrible to see.

Miracle Planet HD - Part I: The Violent Past

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