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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 18:03:24 +0100
Subject: FWD - "Ancient Global Civilization


Have seen some of Klaus Dona's presentations and am impressed by his direct speech and clear thought.  In this video he has already (in first 10 mins) shown some remarkable similarities across the ancient world (i.e. the uncanny resemblance between a southern Mongolian `goddess' statuette and the virtually identical Egyptian representation of Isis).

To an extent I share Dona's belief in at least one globally-connected prior civilization, and have made a few modest connections myself.

Maybe Google "goddess flanked by lions" or see most of the collection at the-goddess.html - [some of those haven't been realized until now - like the various Indus Valley seals and the almost identical pre-dynastic (before the pharaohs] Egyptian image.
Ray


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLvE8uA4rnM
Artifacts and Archaeological proof of the Ancient Global Civilization (Full Documentary)





Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:58:44 +0100
Subject: FWD - Astrology: "proven track record"


This article reminds me of the `In Our Time' prog, (on Renaissance Astrology) when Melvyn Bragg, a conformist materialist, suddenly realized that his panel of academic experts were telling him that classical astrology (not your newspaper stuff) actually works!  He protested, first wildly then somewhat grimly, but the experts were adamant and very well-informed as to the working history of `real-astrology'.
Ray


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/astrologyloving-mp-david-tredinnick-convinced-practise-can-reduce-strain-on-nhs-9629150.html
News UK UK Politics | KASHMIRA GANDER, Friday 25 July 2014
Astrology-loving MP David Tredinnick 'convinced' practise can reduce strain on NHS

While many people glance at their horoscope in the newspaper as a form of entertainment, a Conservative MP has suggested that astrology has a role in medicine.

MP for Bosworth, David Tredinnick, who is a member of the health committee and the science and technology committee, said he was not deterred by his critics whom he labelled "bullies".
"There is no logic in attacking something that has a proven track record," he told BBC News.
(more at page ...)
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:05:17 +0100
Subject: "Malaysia Airlines flight MH17: Conspiracy theories start to circulate about crash


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-conspiracy-theories-start-to-circulate-about-crash-9614992.html
http://tinyurl.com/oaunwwj

The Independent | LIZZIE DEARDEN | Friday 18 July 2014
Malaysia Airlines flight MH17: Conspiracy theories start to circulate about crash

As the Ukrainian military and separatist rebels continue to deny shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, people have been offering their own theories about the tragedy.

One prominent accusation is that Russia attempted to start "World War III" by ordering rebels in Ukraine to fire at the plane.

A pundit on Before It's News claimed the tragedy was "clearly" an attempted false flag to launch a new global war by the "New World Order" (NWO).

The post read: "The occult/illuminati connection to this plane crash are laid out in the video below and are absolutely stunning as the NWO attempts to start WW3 as their grip on power falls apart as the US dollar dies and on the same day TWA Flight 800 was shot down in 1996."

Others believe the Ukrainian government was behind the attack but had aimed to kill Putin, believing the passenger aircraft was his personal jet.

The Rothschild family and unspecified shadowy world leaders have also been accused of wanting to assassinate the Russian President.
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ROTHSCHILDS TRIED TO KILL PUTIN & HIT WRONG PLANE TODAY - ALL BECAUSE OF BRICS BANK & USD END - HOW STUPID COULD THIS ZIONIST IDIOT BE?
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Russia Today had used a report from the Interfax News Agency saying the Russian President was flying the same path over Ukraine at a similar time on his return from Brazil.

But the website later said the unnamed sources in the report had been contradicted by other news outlets, saying Mr Putin had not recently flown over Ukraine.

The prevalence of the symbolic number seven has not gone unnoticed, with people using it as evidence of Illuminati involvement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOXeMF4kq8
"Downded Flight MH17 & The Occult IMF Number 7 Connection"

According to an aviation official quoted by a New York Times journalist, Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, a Boeing 777, made its first flight on July 17, 1997, 17 years ago to the day.

And on top of that, July is the seventh month of 2014, a year which has numbers adding up to seven.

According to a writer on the Illuminati Watcher conspiracy website, the MH370 disappearance "must've been aliens" but MH17 was more likely to be the Illuminati.

"I followed the previous Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (exhaustively) and concluded that it must've been aliens; one of the first conspiracy theories to surface, and until we hear otherwise I'm sticking with it," the article said.

"In that MH370 conspiracy theories post I referenced the fact that the alleged Illuminati might have been involved due to the number 777 being tied in. You'll notice that this MH17 was also a Boeing 777."

Many of the theories were sparked by the incident's proximity to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 in March, which has still not been found.

The carrier was hit by another disaster in December 1977, when Malaysia Airlines flight MH653 crashed in Malaysia, killing all 100 passengers and crew on board.

The crew reported a hijacker on board minutes before it crashed but the person's motive or what happened on board was never revealed.
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Ray




Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:40:39 +0100
Subject: So much of '60's Sci-Fi (and Soylent Green) were right all along?


So much of '60's Sci-Fi (and Soylent Green) were right all along?
Ray


www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/11/ministry-of-defence-vision-future-2045-security-threats
The Guardian, Friday 11 July 2014 16.17 BST - Richard Norton-Taylor

Corporate armies, drone terrorism, laser weapons - MoD's vision of future Ministry of Defence thinktank spells out potential threats to security that might emerge by 2045

Large multinational corporations could develop their own highly capable security forces. Criminals and terrorists will have access to increasingly cheap unmanned drones and space satellites. Sophisticated environmental warfare will spread plant and human diseases by insects.

These are among an array of dire warnings spelt out in a study by a Ministry of Defence thinktank exploring potential threats to security that might emerge by the middle of the century.

The study, Global Strategic Trends - Out to 2045, contains fresh warnings about the effects of climate change, the growth of sprawling urban centres, and pressure on natural resources, notably water. It paints a picture of a world in which the authority of states diminishes in the face of powerful private multinational companies, and national loyalties are weakened by increasing migration.

Rear Admiral John Kingwell, director of the MoD's Concepts and Doctrine Centre, which carried out the study, said it did not seek to predict the future and did not reflect official government policy. However, he said it described plausible outcomes on the basis of rigorous analysis of existing trends.

"The pace and breadth of technological advancements will change our perception of our role in the workplace, reveal new opportunities for health advances, and facilitate the deepening of global communications," he said.

"But as access to technology increases, we will face new risks to our security both at home and abroad. In the west in particular, a rise of individualism and ... a growing sense of disconnection from long-established governing structures will challenge traditional systems."

The study says that by 2045:
* The world population could reach 10.4 billion, compared with about 7.2 billion at present.
* More than 70% of the population is likely to live in urban areas.
* 3.9 billion people are likely to suffer water shortages.
* Driverless transport is likely to be widespread.
* Unmanned systems are increasingly likely to replace people in the workplace, leading to mass unemployment and social unrest.
* Robots are likely to change the face of warfare, but "military decision-making is likely to remain the remit of humans for ethical reasons, at least in western countries".
* Individuals may define themselves less by their nationality, with growing migration and stronger links to virtual communities.
* Chinese defence expenditure it likely to rival that of the US, but Russia's will not match that of China, the US or India.

The study says the influence of non-state actors such as multinational corporations is likely to increase at the expense of nation states, and private companies may develop "highly capable security forces".

Cheaper and more sophisticated drones will mean criminal and terrorist groups are likely to find it easier to "gain, hold and use unmanned capabilities".

Internal terrorist threats are likely to continue in the Middle East and north Africa, while the expansion of alternative currencies may make it easier for criminals and terrorist groups to transfer funds between national jurisdictions, the study says.

However, it says the pressure of globalisation will make it more difficult for individual countries to act unilaterally. That could reduce conflicts between states.

Future weapons are likely to include long-range lasers capable of producing a beam of electromagnetic energy or atomic radiation that can destroy equipment and infrastructure or cause non-lethal damage to human targets, the report says.

"As the cost of sequencing an individual's DNA continues to fall, targeting an individual using their DNA may be possible by 2045," the study adds. "We could also see sophisticated environmental warfare capable of spreading plant and human disease by insects or insect-machine hybrids. Crops and cattle could be destroyed, as well as people being incapacitated or killed."

By 2020, more than 500 small satellites, sometimes called cubesats, will join the 1,000 already operating in orbit around the planet, according to the report. They will be increasingly vulnerable to attack - and collision.

By 2045 or earlier, it says, "criminal organisations could secure payload space on rockets operated by private companies - this would allow them to launch their own surveillance satellites, potentially threatening individual and corporate privacy".
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:12:55 +0100
Subject: Re: - Fwd: Archaeology, Anthropology, and Interstellar Communication


That's what I thought at first.  Then realized, over a few years, how nervous people in power really are - maybe because they rarely know how to do practical things themselves and so get increasingly secretive about everything.  That's a vicious circle.
Ray


From: Greg B****
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:03 PM

> Pretty sure I can take someone else being much smarter than me

>> The `Brookings Report' (kept under wraps for many years) went on to propose keeping secret any contact with alien cultures under the guise of "preventing a collapse of civilization".

[BTW - the reason(s) for NASA commissioning a report on the repercussions of alien contact as early as 1961 are still secret!]




Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:30:06 +0100
Subject: Re: Fwd: Archaeology, Anthropology, and Interstellar Communication/


Thanks Mark, downloaded and looking to read it shortly.
Ray

BTW - If anyone's _NOT_ read the significant bits of the earlier Brookings Report (for NASA - 1961) here's some notes and URLs - Ray
"It has been speculated that, of all groups, scientists and engineers might be the most devastated by the discovery of relatively superior creatures, since these professions are most clearly associated with the mastery of nature rather than with the understanding and expression of man" (*1)
"Advanced understanding of nature might vitiate all our theories at the very least, if not also require a culture and perhaps a brain inaccessible to earth scientists"
-
The `Brookings Report' (kept under wraps for many years) went on to propose keeping secret any contact with alien cultures under the guise of "preventing a collapse of civilization".

Wiki Brookings ref - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookings_Report
Brookings Report Summary, 50 page PDF - http://www.nicap.org/papers/brookings_summary.pdf
Brookings Report, 219 page PDF - http://www.nicap.org/papers/brookings.pdf


From: Mark Mc****
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:26 AM
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: 'Remy C*******'
Date: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:42 AM
http://www.drheatherlynn.com/uploads/2/5/7/6/25765599/archaeology_anthropology_and_interstellar_communication.pdf
Download the free E-book, "Archaeology, Anthropology, and Interstellar Communication", written by NASA.

NASA's description:
"Addressing a field that has been dominated by astronomers, physicists, engineers, and computer scientists, the contributors to this collection raise questions that may have been overlooked by physical scientists about the ease of establishing meaningful communication with an extraterrestrial intelligence.  These scholars are grappling with some of the enormous challenges that will face humanity if an information-rich signal emanating from another world is detected.  By drawing on issues at the core of contemporary archaeology and anthropology, we can be much better prepared for contact with an extraterrestrial civilization, should that day ever come." (2014)





Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 13:26:38 +0100
Subject: Re: Records Regarding the Assassination of John F. Kennedy // NSA CSS //


Thanks Terry, got interested because `Everything Is Under Control' by Robert Anton Wilson has more than a few entries of folk (either witnesses or otherwise involved) who later `suicided' (often holding the gun in the wrong hand), sometimes by extreme methods, i.e. shotgun or even an axe.

R.A.W. carefully kept to a semi-humorous tone (because he didn't want to get shot?) but the overall impression is very murky.
Ray


> http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/jfk.shtml
> I do not remember if I sent this listing of 343 documents re the President John F. Kennedy assassination.
> Terry





Date: Tue, Fri, 23 May 2014 16:34:56 +0100
Subject: Re: Alien stuffs and the moon.


Hi Choong, Noticed that this guy's `proofs' were mostly quoting present or already out-dated physics [like speeds / inertial effects (though he didn't know that) / appearances / debris avoidance etc.].  Some of those are already non-valid and expect the rest to follow.

However, despite his Xtian agenda (scarcely a commendation of `truth'), he's on stronger ground with the apocryphal reports of interchanges with `tricksters'.  Some respectable researchers like Vallee and Hynek have frankly commented on this, and compared it to ancient myth and legend (i.e. supernatural reports).  But that doesn't mean the tricksters are necessarily "demons", merely beings with slightly different moral codes (and we humans can't claim high morality).

Strangely enough, if you check those ancient myths and legends you'll find that the `tricksters' usually had a _higher_ regard for literal truth and oath-keeping, so they're always very particular about the precise wording of agreements / promises / pledges etc.  And in the tales most humans usually failed the tests, except maybe for a sharp-witted heroine or hero.
Ray


From: Choong **** ****
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:00 PM

> I am not sure if anyone had watched this one but this is my second time in years of the same video, you know it got me thinking that if the US has been able to go to the moon the reason why they wasn't really interested in going back is because they already have people there ever since, of course "playing dumb" is best policy or else they will break their own cover for all these decades there goes their plan right? I never underestimate High Politics of global proportion., let alone the possibility of inter-planetary politics between western cabals and those aliens.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRWbmiXQba0
> "Undeniable Evidence Aliens Do Not Come From Other Galaxies"


BTW - forgot to mention that hypnotism, or even `counselling' are NOT sure-fire methods of obtaining truth from witnesses.
Maybe check http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m19-006.shtml
(account first posted 2011)

Ray





Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 22:44:58 +0100
Subject: FWD - "Were Dinosaurs around Recently? Or Now?


Interestingly the `social evidence' (myths & legends _always_ have some seed of truth) packs a lot of weight.

And, although I might discount much of the radical creationist stuff (6000 yr old Earth etc), there _is_ pretty strong recent evidence that `Noahs Flood' happened around 8000-7000 yrs ago (see Ian Wilson's `Before the Flood') resulting from the massive temperature rebound after the `8,200 yr Cooling', which raised sea-levels by hundreds of feet, flooding much of the Med + N. Africa and the Middle East, and breaching the Black Sea.

In addition many other anomalies raised are significant because they are stratiographic: indicated by the strata, which is pretty indisputable.  Also liked the soft-tissue evidence - seems weird to say the least.
Ray


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8KCuyHryH8
Dragons or Dinosaurs - Real Truth (Paranormal Documentary)





Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:54:47 +0100
Subject: Re: The 'Breakaway Group'

From: Gerald O'C******
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 6:33 PM

> I would counsel against relying too much on specific instances. If the
> underlying story is along the right lines then it is inevitable that
> misinformation will become part of the picture. The best way of discrediting a
> story is to release it in variants so that evidential integrity is weakened.
> Lance M****'s response instantiates this.


Ha!  Quite right, and professional politicos and MSM (mainstream media) have long ago perfected such simple ways of devaluing or discrediting sensitive stories - taking their lead from the `intelligence' agencies.

Some time ago I read `The Spy and his Masters' where the (CIA?) author `Christopher Felix' tells how agents' cover is maintained and how authorities damp-down public interest - maybe see www.xenu.net/archive/go/felix/ch_i4.htm and look for "Commander Crabbe".

BTW - a lot later I had the opportunity of questioning a senior BBC `news editorial expert' and he had to agree (on air - on the `Feedback' program) that it was relatively easy to make nonsense sound significant, or, conversely, to stop the meaning or significance of a sentence being registered by listeners (yes - even intelligent listeners like you!).

[It's mainly the spacing _after_ the sentence which either impresses it on your mind OR wipes it from your consciousness - here's details of the three tricks.]

Since then have realized that, if I am bored with a news-item - it's probably because I'm meant to be.

Cheers
Ray D




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