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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:27:55 +0100 (GMT/BST)

I am totally convinced the Sphinx was built at almost the same time as the Great Pyramid, i.e. circa 12500 years ago - as Edgar Cayce said in his "readings".

You may ask me why I am convinced? Because I have studied the Sphinx dimensions for a long while an found that its dimension point - again and again - to the Great Step of the Pyramid.

I should be very happy to receive e-mails from people wishing to know about my findings.
Tanks.
karstenlundsgaard@webspeed.dk




Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 05:46:54 +0100 (GMT/BST)

Spirit Orb Phenomena: Fact or Fiction?
By Anthony Kevan Sercombe - Publishers: BookSurge Publishing
ISBN 1-4196-0292-6

Book review by Paul Vassallo
Ghosts have always fascinated humans if only because they have offered the possibility of finding out more about life on the other side. Spirit Orbs, though are less known, Anthony Kevan Sercombe's "Spirit Orb Phenomena: Fact or Fiction?" is a pioneering work in this field and has been rated 93% at www.amazon.com. Put simply, spirit orbs are images of humans which can be captured with camera. The writer takes the trouble of sharing how easily spirit orbs can be easily confused with reflected light on camera and other natural anomalies, however it made clear that spirit orbs images are definitely different to some tricks of the light.

The many illustrations (98 colour photographs) offer, at least interesting if not compelling evidence of this phenomena. Readers will be able to judge for themselves what spirits orbs actually are. The author himself found spirit orbs appeared more as he wrote the book and looking at the illustrations one is struck by sheer personality which comes through in certain images. Perhaps the most appealing fact about this phenomena is that all it takes is a digital camera for anyone to possibly capture such intriguing images.

Anthony Kevan Sercombe's book offers a fascinating introduction and explanations to a little known topic. Not only that, but readers will find it also provides a doorway into the mysterious world of the spiritual afterlife.

The book is available from www.booksurge.com or amazon.com.

Kind regards
Kevan Sercombe




Date: Sat 23 Apr '05
A New View.




Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005

Plea - for an honest lawyer?




Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 05:41:56 +0100 (GMT/BST)

Submit your site for FREE and participate in the webs only paranormal, psychic and supernatural networking scheme. Please go to Worldwide Paranormal Networking Information
UK organisations
letsbespooked.co.uk/networking_uk.html
USA organisations
letsbespooked.co.uk/networking_usa.html
[no email given]

Hi, if you're meaning ghosty.html, it's just a collection of well-attested phenomena that seem to have one thing in common: they break all the `laws of physics'.
That's spooky enough for me.
cheers
ed@percs





Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:53:11 GMT

Sushil Yadav on EMOTION




Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:16:15 GMT

Im looking for a group that does ghost clearings..are you one?

If not please tell me of a few. Im ... in the state of ms.

Can't say (am in UK a.t.t.) - but here's Google's List




Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 04:45:29 GMT

WOW! Synchronicity at work - again!

I was preparing a lecture for my Metaphysical Group, and during my search - came upon your pages. Four hours ago!
I AM AWED!

Thanks! Makes me feel great to know you have rolled up your sleeves and are elbow deep in it!

Leena Anneli Peltoniemi,
M.A., Ph.D.
Houston Texas

Sent "Thanks" - tho' not sure which page Leena's read, maybe it's Buckle on Metaphysics




Date: Sat 29 Jan
Tassos sends a proposition.




HEALTH WARNING - "RELIGIOUS" CONTENT
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:42:11 GMT

A new scriptural synthesis and Gnostic interpretation, (authorship unknown) which includes material from the OT/NT, Apocrypha, The Dead Sea Scrolls and The Nag Hammadi Library, to describe and teach the first wholly new Christian moral and spiritual paradigm for two thousand years is on the Net.
And this is the first ever religious teaching, able to demonstrate [?] by an act of faith, its own efficacy! That is to say, the first living and testable proof of the living God has been published on the Net! However incredulous [sic] this may sound, if this teaching is confirmed, and there appear to be many who are attempting to do so, it can only be described as an intellectual and religious revolution in the making! The site where I found my copy of the manuscript (a 1.3mb pdf download) at is at www.energon.uklinux.net

`Perceptions' isn't responsible for content of external sites - ed@percs




Subject: II Brazilian Ufologic National Vigil Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:26:06

Dear friends
We communicate what we shall be promoting next December 11, beginning 8 PM, the II Ufologic National Vigil.
Regards
socex@terra.com.br




Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:47:00 GMT

Hello Again Ray!!!
Hope you are well and doing great.

Today I have finally taken some time out to write to you about an inference that I have drawn after gathering some information about astrology.

Astrological charts depend on the positions of the planets for generating forecasts. Positions of planets are expressed not relative to earth but relative to the starry background. The Zodiac signs form most of this background, infont of which these planets/sun & Moon pass. Possibly other constellations through which none of these planets pass, failed to become zodiac signs. I doubt that any planet/sun/moon passes through Orion.

Astrology proclaims that when a particular planet passes through a particular zodiac sign a partiuclar kind of effect is felt and also, a particular kind of personalities are born in this world.

As we know from the UEF theory that planets sheild the earth from the UEF incident on earth, does it mean that from various parts of the sky, a different intesity of incomming UEF exists? Ie UEF from scorpio region is different than Leo or Taurus?

I think that astrology only observed the correlation but couldnt explain the reason. Here is the reason:

When a particular planet is passing through a particular region of the sky, its probably in a zodiac sign or between two. At any point there are ceratain parameters that affect its sheilding. These parameters are its distance at that point in the orbit & its vector (ie the direction of its velocity).

So, its not the mere presence of a planet in a particular region of the sky that brings about a particular pattern of UEF.

Hope this makes sense
E.Y.




Date: Sat 27 Nov '04

OFFER from Valery Feodorovich Andrus




Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 00:52:15 GMT

why isnt Amenhotep the forth in the index? I looked everywhere and i asked Jeevees and your site popped up as a refrence And if you could please help me find the correct site. [no address]

Hi, those kings sometimes took a `religious' name when crowned - check P. A. Piccione's List of Egyptian Kings. The 18th dynasty 1570-1293 - from Ahmose I onwards - includes Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) 1350-1334 and Tutankhamun (Tutankhaten) 1334-1325. Later priests deleted Akhenaten from their List of Kings.
cheers
ed@percs





Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:53:46 GMT
A Salamander's good wishes




Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:30:15 GMT
From NZ - The New Globalism?




Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:27:59 +0100
query re: PERCEPTIONS MAGAZINE (LA)?





Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:17:27 +0100

Dear Scholar Easvoid
Thanks for your very interesting mail.
I believe you're surely correct about ancient linkages between world languages; that is being only tardily recognized (but incompletely even so) in the West.

Your knowledge of these matters is welcomed, as is any further news of your work.
Best wishes
ed@percs





Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:34:05+0100 (GMT/BST)

Dear Scholar :
Excuse me, I have Deciphered the Phaistos Disk by Chinese characters and I have edited the world-first ORACLE-GLYPH ALPHABET (real Chinese alphabet ) recently. Let our exchange our minds or knowledges, please.

I am very interesting in ancient culture of China and world, and I am accomplished in ancient Chinese character such as Oracle-glyph, and I am very interesting in ancient words of the world.

I can appraisal all of the antiques feckly which have Chinese Character on it. I began to study Chinese etymology since 6 years old.
I have already wrtten some article about a new theory that called Ziyuanology. I found there are lot of relatives among most of the ancient world words, and I have some idea of project for fouding a system or association of the world etymology of words.

Please check and give some advice or comments.
www4.7show.net/tms/decipher-phaistos.mht
www4.7show.net/tms/article-e.htm

Make friends, please.
Sincerely,
Easvoid

Xi'an, Shannxi, China.
Home page: www4.7show.net/tms/index-e.htm




Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:25:06 +0100 (GMT/BST)

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Subject: Wishes and blessings Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:28:53 +0530 From: "Mr.L.S.C.Bose" <lscbose@eth.net>

Dear Sir,
By the blessings of mother goddess, my first book in Tamil "Atma Jothi Kurieedum Adu Puli Villaiyattum" (The Divine Light of Soul and the goat and tiger game" ) is going to be published on 26.09.04 evening 5.00 pm at "Board Room", Hotel Ramyas, Tiruchirapalli.

Scholars from varies field such as, Religious, Archeology, Educational, Public servants like law and order, News media, Business etc. are addressing with their blessings during this publishing ceremony.

I will be a blessed person by God to get your blessings letter for the publishing the book.

With love and regards,
Subash




Quaint (MetaMail?) query re: Gouranga




Hello Mike,
Hey, don't be too sure. That story [re: comet strikes] is only now getting coverage here in UK, and some folk are saying "Well - maybe" but perhaps more from suspicions about our gov't than from actual worries about real comet strike(s).

Yes, think that's the most logical expectation [re:`manned' UFOs], altho' other people take extreme aggressive views that don't make much sense to me.

Thanks for good thoughts, let's hope we get time to talk again pretty soon
best wishes to you and yours
Ray





Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 05:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: m lost

Hello Ray
first the UFO's and Phoenix, I myself did not see them but I would bet at least 100,000 claim to have seen them. Quite a few people filmed it as well. I will fill you in about my take on the subject. As you may remember I once saw one for at most 10 seconds. I was out in the desert north of phx and it was almost dusk and so I had stopped and cleaned up and packed up to go but I was watching the sunset. I had grown up nearby and was very familiar with the terrain from riding dirtbikes. So I am parked against a hill and was looking out into a valley when this red/orange light flew out into the valley about 15 miles away from me about parrallel with me near the cities edge. It came into view very fast and stopped abrubtly at the edge of the city about 15 miles away.It stopped in a way that would be impossible for a human. It was going way to fast to have stopped that quick, then without any hesitation it flew along the edge of the city and directly over my head following the contour of the ground about 100 yards above me without a sound and faster than I could say look to my wife who was with me at the time.

I feel that if ufo's are manned by others they will not be any danger to us because to get to such an advanced state they would have had to work through all the problems we are faced with as a species. Harming us would not be in their mission or their minds. In another 100 years we will be past greed & violence or we will be extinct.

Ray, what I was originally writing you about. There is word that a comet is going to hit on june 18th. I sound like a complete wacko saying that. I am going to give you the links that I found and you can look into this. These links will at times seem like a crackpot but underneath it is something scary be sure to read all of each page.

www.bushcountry.org/news/jun_news_pages/withheld
www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/end_world.htm
www.cyberspaceorbit.com/AussieBloke.htm
www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

What I find disturbing is the naval aspect and the M3 cash thing. I may possibly lose any credibility by telling you this stuff but I thought if anyone could give me some insight into this I thought you would be the one.

Your friend in Arizona
mike




Subject: Stela B, An Olmec life-size scone figure Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:16:48 +0530 From: "Mr.bose" <lscbose@eth.net>

Respected Sir,
Sir, I am very Sorry for troubling you, we (Jack and myself) are keep on working on the ancient American elephants. Please help us to get the below pictures. Interestingly, I can observe a human figure both the hands are showing "cin mudra" and neck wear in two different pictures (similar like in Rock drawing at Fergana, Uzbekistan) in my collections, but unfortunately the pictures are not clear because it is printed in black and white during 1989 and 1987.

No.1: "Stela B " monument N at Copan (printed in Black and white in anicient skies) in my collections. We are more concern in particular about the elephant trunks at both side on top the crown of the figure.

No.2 : An Olmec life- size stone (head, hands and foot were missing) figure with a plaque on a neckless, (printed in Black and white in anicient skies) which is in Muesum of Anthropology, in Mexico city.

With regards,
Subash




Subject: Atlantis in Gibraltar (Spain-Morocco). Please, Help!! Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:20:03 +0200 From: "Atlantologia Científica" <atlantologia@hotmail.com> Reply-To: "Atlantologia Científica" <Origenesinfo@todito.com>

Please, Help!!  The Great Discovery !!

Comparisons between the theory of the Hispano-american investigator Georgeos Diaz-Montexano and French geologist Jacques Collina-Girard.
Simple Coincidences or Plagiarism?

Please, click to url: civilizaciones.webcindario.com/release_news.htm Or Alternative Links: usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisiberia/release_news.htm
CONTAC INFO: María Fdez-Valmayor
"Civilizations Origins Scientific Society"
Atlantis.miarroba.com
egiptosofa@yahoo.es (34) 91 479 91 20




Subject: Re: "Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:09:06 +0100 To: "Mr.Bose"

Hello again Mr. Bose, I hope you're well.
An interesting subject - elephant types in the Americas. It's admitted that mammoths, mastodons and `imperial elephants' (Californian) lived in North America around the last Ice Age (see La Brea mention in links below).

Controversy about elephant drawings and carvings found in North America (see Grand Canyon site) and in Central and South America.
I.e. did elephants and modern humans co-exist in the Americas?

Here are some web-sites - with links to other pages:-
www.science-frontiers.com/sf068/sf068b07.htm / www.creationism.org/swift/DohenyExpedition/Doheny01Main.htm / www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/evidence.htm / www.science-frontiers.com/sf061/sf061a02.htm / abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/lstone_a.html / abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/lstone_b.html / www.2s2.com/chapmanresearch/elephant.html / www.bagheera.com/inthewild/ext_woollym.htm / www.exn.ca/mammoth/FamilyTree.cfm / rbcm1.rbcm.gov.bc.ca/hhistory/mammoth/mammothstory.html / www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/amyst.htm
And finally, if you want to continue searching for <"elephant" + "america"> here is a page with a search facility that I have used www.science-frontiers.com/sfonline.htm


best regards
ed@percs


& there's note at Westward Ho!



Subject: Re: "Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:11:25 +0530 From: "Mr.bose"

Dear sir,
How are you?

I am on new work on the title Mexican sacred book "Popal -Vuh", I heard there was a ancient painting or rock art of an elephant in ancient America.

If I get the picture, I am sure I will come up with a solid theory on the title of the book, please help me.

With Love and regards,
Subash




05 April '04 - beautiful piece of work from E.Y.




25 Feb. '04 - interesting sci-mail re: "Controversy re: Discovery"




03 Feb. - interesting sci / meta dead-end poses a social question !




Subject: "Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)" Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:38:47 +0000 To: "Mr.bose" <lscbose@eth.net>

Hello Mr. Bose, Happy New Year to you too, I'm glad to say your article on the Fergana Rock Drawing has aroused interest, on the Web and at www.perceptions.couk.com/fergana.txt
best regards


Mr Bose's message
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:04:58 +0530

Respected Sir,
Wish you happy new year 2004. I was on official tour - my PC was at Bangalore - I will be back end of Feb.2004.
Thank you for uploading the "metamail".
Subash.




Subject: alignments (planets) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:52:28 To: Eklavya yadav

Hello E.Y
That's a complex subject w/lots of known and unknown variables. Some early work was done by J.H Nelson (1940) for RCA - see fertility.html (research on sunspot cycles) and, from checkalign.html you might see "sunspot" cycle phenomena are strongly linked to other cyclical alignment effects on Earth (and all planets) - shown to be grouped in larger and larger "grand cycles" to several thousands of years (maybe largest?);
maybe giving more credibility to previously disregarded speculation re: "Ages" affecting us - see magic2.html#note

So - you might be right, although these changing "forces", like others at fertility.html#nother may now seem to be "subjective" (because they seem to vary from person to person) - even though they could well be universally affecting us.

But, that said, you would seem to have a point about a drop in "vitality / honesty" dating from around that time (mid-late 90's).

Problems:
a) choosing all relevant data for consideration - would need to be _mighty_ database
b) separation of real "objective" from "subjective" perceptions - since we don't know for sure how we each perceive.

Hope to see your mathematical stuff sometime.
Best regards
ed@percs




Subject: hi Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:22:11 -0800 (PST) From: Eklavya yadav

Hi again Ray
I am working on more inferences and also, I think I have found an interesting mathematical model.
Meanwhile, I have a question. The year 1996 was a turning year of my life. It was when I noticed (un)desirable changes. Also changes in the world too since that year. I think people became more hooked to computers and mental suppression was creeping in.

The planetary line up of May 2000 perhaps began coming in effect since 1996. I.e the shield formed by all the planets began to contract.
I know this sounds a litttle bit ridiculous but, even the hollywood people in the movies began looking a lot 'deflated' - lacking spirit - "New Age Neurosis."
Got any idea when will the effects of this line up disappear?
E.Y.

now you can see - the Eklavya Yadav Theory - ed.




"Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)"
More mail - 11 Nov. '03
seems we need a Fergana input file
and Fergana links for other investigators - ed.





Subject: "Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)" Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:09:54 +0530 From: "Mr.bose" <lscbose@eth.net>

Dear Editor,
According to be command of "The God", today 31,October, 2003 I have visited your web site.
The main reason of this mail, is to know the scholars view and opinion the "Rock drawing at Fergana (Uzbekistan)" apart from the given in your web site.
Sir, This particular rock drawing is interesting to the spiritual world and it needs to decoded, which I can do it.

Please visit my web site : www.geocities.com/tlscbose/uzbekistan.htm, and refer the articles on Concentric circles, Bolivia's rock symbols and Nazca GGF marking.
Now I am seriously working this particular rock drawing, I need your assistance to advise me, where I can found the entire picture in original color, and what is the latest position in decoding the above.

Thank you in advance,
With love and regards,
T.L.Subash Chandira Bose.
A, South Indian, Hindu by birth, from Tamil Nadu.

Sent site info to Mr Bose - ed.




Subject: re sphinx Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:08:59 +0800 From: "Elizabeth Newton" <newton@atumra.net>

I have read your website with interest, having been fascinated for many years with alternative theories as to the origins of the pyramids and Sphinx.

I have my own theory that the Sphinx is literally the image of `Atum' and probably represents the image of an alien lifeform. Based on that theory I have taken up writing speculative fantasy: a series of novels called `Atumra'.

If you are interested, my website is www.atumra.net. The first part of the site summaries the story. The second part contains the Authors Note in which I give some reasons for my theory.

Regards
Elizabeth Newton

Sent "thanks for info" to Elizabeth - ed.




Subject: Link Submission: SeanAlonzo.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:12:57 -0700 From: "Sean"<info@seanalonzo.com>

Hello:
I would like to submit my site for submission into your links section:

SeanAlonzo.com
SeanAlonzo.com is the official site of occult fiction author Sean-Alonzo, exploring symbolism, alternative history, philosophy, secret societies and other areas of the esoteric tradition.

www.seanalonzo.com

Thanks For Your Help, Sean-Alonzo

don't have `link submissions' per se - but curious so checked -

with http://www.sff.net/featuredesk/links/L0000891.asp - which says :-
QUOTE - "SeanAlonzo.com" has the following META keywords: SeanAlozno, Sean-Alonzo, secret societies, esoteric, esoterica, author, philosophy, occult, symbolism, tarot, conspiracy, history, Shakespeare, Shakespearean, symbology, astrology, freemasonry, masonic, masonry, rituals, ritual, religion, metaphysics, rosicrucian, new age, mystical - UNQUOTE





Subject: sphinx Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 08:07:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jose Rivera

The sphinx was built before the Egyptians, I can proove it.
Have you ever seen a egyptian statue with a smaller head? NO!!! Has there been any statue altered, changed to look different? NO!!! The statues that were changed were the statues that they broke the noses off. Why did they brake the noses off? Because the statues were of Nubian decent.
Nopoleon or the Egyptians did not want the statues to not look like them. Think about it would the egyptians build A statue with A smaller head? NO!!! No other statue has A smaller head than the body. Somebody long ago tried to change the sphinx face so it could look like them, Nopoleon,or the Egyptians. The sphinx was built by the Nubians, thats why the nose was broken off, and the face was changed.
If the sphinx looked Egyptian, do you think the Egyptian people would of tried to change how the face looks? NO!!! Its A big cover up. Think about it would the Egyptian people try to change the face of something so sacred as the sphinx if it looked like them? NO!!! The sphinx didnt look like them and they tried changing it so it could look like them. Thats why the nose was broken off, the chin scraped, and the lips made smaller. The explains why the head is smaller than the body. I have a photo of how the sphinx realy looks like. It looks like of Nubian decent. On my photo of the sphinx it shows A face by the neck area, thats why one side of the neck is damaged and not the other. If the truth was told, History books would be changed.

East Chicago Indiana U.S.A




Subject: re: "Megaliths" Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:03:02 +0100 To: yaridanjo <yaridanjo@attbi.com>
Hello,
Thanks for the link - It's well appreciated because that is a great page you've constructed - even seeing it in a hurry.

Hope to give it more close attention shortly - it looks to be full of excellent research and reasoning.

And, as you probably guessed, yes - that "Westward" page carries (part of) your message as sub-text.
best regards
ed@percs

Mar '04 Later science confirmation of Barry's theory?




Subject: Megaliths Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 22:55:41 -0700 From: "yaridanjo" <yaridanjo@attbi.com>
Dear Sir,
Re: <Megaliths - "big stones" - often bear this curious sign: a central "cup" or pit orbited by up to nine concentric rings, with an "intruder" coming from outside, moving toward central cup">

Reminds me of a comet swarm coming thorugh the inner solar system as stimulated by our Sun's dark star companion Vulcan.

See: www.barry.warmkessel.com/barry/SynopsisComet.html
Often some strike, causing a catastrophe like Noah's Flood.
Barry W.




Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:58:43 +0100 To: 38259todschick@bigfoot.com

Hi,
Frank Herbert wrote "Whenever you have a situation of haves and have-nots, then you have positions to be defended - that always means armies, whether you call them troops or police or guards" . . . and their tools will range from crude slaughter to all available technology (obviously).

We'd like more evidence of what you're implying, but will admit that no `ruler' willingly authorizes truly large expenditure unless trying to grab more power.

regards
ed@percs

later check found folks @ NewsHum & "Citizens against Human Rights Abuse" and more radical "Freedom isn't Free" sharing your worries - also `Perceptions' background & later input and conclusions






Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 04:44:27 +0200 From: "38259todschick@bigfoot.com" <38259todschick@bigfoot.com>

English

Francais


Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mir ist etwas zu Ohren gekommen.Eine relativ aussergewöhnliche Gerüchteküche, aus der man mir ein schwerverdauliches Süppchen vorgesetzt hat, ist der Grund meiner Mail. Unappetitlich ist gar kein Ausdruck!

Ist es möglich auf funktechnischem Wege(in welchen Frequenzbereichen?) jemanden zu beeinflussen oder zu manipulieren? Oder sogar zu schikanieren und terrorisieren? Unter dem Motto:"Einen am Sender?Nich ganz alleine? Kleine Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlänge? Bohnen in den Ohren? Auf den Zahn gefühlt(Amalgam)?Mal unverbindlich reinhören? Der Pullacher Wanzentanz? Ist das Spinnerei?Das geht doch gar nicht,oder? Und wenn wie sieht das ethisch moralisch aus? Zur technischen Seite der Sache gibt es zwar Berichte und Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik

http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/

http://jya.com/haarp.htm

http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm

http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm

http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html

http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html GONE try "SEARCH"

http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm

http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html

http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html

http://mindcontrolforum.com/

http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html

usw.

aber, das kann doch nicht sein,das soetwas gemacht wird,oder?

Eine Menschenrechtsverletzung sonder gleichen!?!

Ist es möglich,durch Präparation,der Ohren und im Zusammenspiel mit eventuell vorhandenem Zahnersatz? Mit relativ einfacher Funktechnik?? In diesem Land?Hier und heute??? Unter welchen Motiven? Wo ist eigentlich die Abteilung 5 des BND und des Verfassungsschutzes? Kann es sein,daß es Leute gibt,die dem BND/Verfassungsschutz, auf funktechnischem Wege permanent einen Situationsbericht abliefern,ohne es selbst zu merken, im Kindesalter machbar gemacht?? Werden durch solche unfreiwilligen, inoffiziellen, informellen Mitarbeiter,beim BND und Verfassungsschutz,nach Stasimanier, Informationen von und über,rein theoretisch, jeden Bundesbürger,gesammelt? Gibt es dann noch ein Recht auf Privatsphere? Wer kontrolliert eigentlich den BND,MAD und Verfassungsschutz auf Unterwanderung??? In der Mail geht es mir eigentlich um die Frage,ob es kriminellen Elementen, aus dem Motiv der Bereicherung,oder Gruppierungen aus ideologischen Motiven, möglich ist ,sich Wissen und Technik anzueignen,die zu anderen Zeiten, aus anderen Motiven (Westfernsehen?), entwickelt wurde.

Und stellt der technische Wissensstand, der der Allgemeinheit bekannt ist wirklich das Ende der Fahnenstange dar?

Ist es denn nicht kriminellen Elementen genauso möglich, ich sage das jetzt mal verharmlost und verniedlichend, einzelne Personen oder Gruppen mit relativ einfachen Mitteln, aus welchen Motiven auch immer, auszuspionieren?

Und stellt diese "Ausspioniererei" nicht einen erheblichen Eingriff in die Privatsphäre dar?

Ist es möglich einzelne Personen oder Gruppen, eine Akzeptans einer gewissen Öffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), die z.B. mit Hilfe von Internetseiten,wie zum Beispiel dem "Pranger"geschaffen werden könnte, mal vorausgestzt,zu terroriesieren und oder zu schikanieren, und das in aller (suggerierten)Öffentlichkeit?Haben die Leute die da am Pranger, oder auf irgendeiner anderen Seite verunglimpft,oder gar Verleumdet werden, eigentlich eine Chance zur Gegenöffentlichkeit?Ist das nicht Rufmord?

Vor einigen Jahren bin ich per Zufall auf die Seite "Der Pranger" gestoßen, damals lief das noch nicht unter dem Deckmantel der Partnervermittlung. Können sich einzelne Personen,oder Interessengemeinschaften, aus reinem Selbstzweck,solcher Seiten bedienen, um unter dem Deckmantel einer fragwürdigen Zivilkourage, durch anzetteln irgendwelcher Hetzkampagnen,eigene, ganz persöhnliche Interessen durchsetzen?

Können solche Seiten zur Koordination von kriminellen machenschaften dienen? Die Frage,ist es Möglichkeit oder Unmöglichkeit,technisch und gesellschaftlich, einzelne Personen,oder auch Gruppierungen, aus einer kriminellen / ideologischen Energei heraus,zu manipulieren oder zu beeinflussen, terrorisieren oder zu schickanieren, und zwar gezielt.

Zielgruppenmanipulation durch Massenmedien sind alltägliche Manipulation, der mansich, mehr oder weniger,entziehen kann. Wird das Recht auf Privatsphäre, schleichend, tiefenpsychologisch, durch Sendungen,wie,zum Beispiel "Big brother",untergraben?

Sollte bei einem der Angemailten ein gewisser Wissensstand zum Thema vorhanden sein, wäre ich über Hinweise zum Thema froh.

Auf der Suche nach Antworten auf meine Fragen maile ich verschiedene Adressen aus dem Internet an,

und hoffe aufkonstruktive Antworten und Kritiken Über einen Besuch auf der Seite <http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html> würde ich mich freuen.

Sollten Sie von mir mehrfach angeschrieben worden sein,so bitte ich Sie,mir dies zu entschuldigen,

das war nicht beabsichtigt. Der Grund für meine Anonymität ist, außer einer möglichen Repression, auch die Tatsache, daß bei derlei Fragenstellerei, verständlicherweise,schnell der Ruf nach der Psychatrie laut wird. Was auch Methode hat(ist).

Da ich seit längerem mit Ausschlußlisten arbeite,kann es normalerweise nicht sein,daß eine Mailadresse doppelt angemailt wird.

Sollten Sie die Mail als Belästigung empfinden, möchte ich mich hiermit dafür entschuldigen!

Kann die künstliche spam Hysterie,genutzt werden,um die Möglichkeit zu unterbinden, im Falle einer Menschenrechtsverletzung,Öffentlichkeit zu schaffen?

Wird das Internet wasserdicht???

Big brother is watching you?

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Excuse please [excuse] the disturbance!

Me something came to ears. A relatively unusual rumor kitchen, from which one put forward to me a heavy digestible soup, is the reason of my Mail.

Unappetizing is no printout! Is it possible on radio Wege(in for which frequency ranges?) to influence or manipulate someone? Terrorize or to even chicane and Under the Motto:"Einen at the Sender? Nich quite alone?

Small Mannim Ohr? Fal Wellenlaenge? Bohnen in the ears?

On the tooth clean-hear gefuehlt(Amalgam)? Mal witthout obligation?

The Pullacher bug wanzentanz? Isn't the Spinnerei? Das goes nevertheless at all, or? And if as looks ethicalally morally?

For the technical page of the thing there is to report and web page: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik

[pages - list above]

but, that cannot be nevertheless, which is made soetwas, or? A violation of human rights resemble special!?! Is it possible, by preparation, the ears and in interaction with possibly available artificial dentures? With relatively simple radio engineering?? In this Land?Hier and today???

Under which motives? Where is the department actually 5 of the BND and the protection of the constitution? Can it be that there are people, which deliver the Federal Intelligence Service / protection of the constitution, on radio way permanently a situation report, without noticing it, in the infancy feasiblly made? By such unofficial coworkers, with the BND and protection of the constitution, after Stasimanier, is information collected of and over,purely theoretically, each Federal citizen?

Is there then still another right to Privatsphere? Who actually checks the BND, WAD and protection of the constitution for infiltration???

Into the Mail actually concerns it to me the question whether it criminal items, from which motive of enriching, or groupings from ideological motives is possible, to acquire itself knowledge and technique which were developed at other times, from other Motiven (Westfernsehen?). And does the technical knowledge status place, to that the public admits is really the end of the flag bar?

Is it not to criminal items just as possible, I legend that now times played down and does nice-end, individual persons or groups with relatively simple means, to spy from whatever motives always?

And doesn't this " Ausspioniererei " represent a substantial intervention into the privatsphaere?

It is possible individual persons or groups, one acceptance to of a certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), e.g. by Internet pages, how for example the " Pranger"geschaffen could become, times vorausgestzt, to terroriesieren and or chicane, and in everything (the people suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit? Haben there at the Pranger, or on any other page to be reviled, or slandered, actually a chance to the Gegenoeffentlichkeit? Ist that not character assassination?

Some years ago I am by coincidence the page "the Pranger" encountered, at that time ran not yet under the cover of the partner switching.Itself can individual persons, or communities of interests, from pure self purpose, such pages to serve, over under the cover of a doubtful Zivilkourage, through plot any rushing campaigns, own, quite persoehnliche interests to intersperse? Can such pages serve for the co-ordination of criminal machinations?

The question, is it possibility or impossibility, technically and socially, individual persons, or also groupings of manipulating or of influencing from an criminal / ideological Energei, terrorizes or to schickanieren, directed.

Target group manipulation by mass media are everyday manipulation, from which, more or less, can extract itself. Does the right to privatsphaere, creeping, by transmissions become deep psychological, how, for example " Big undermine brother"?

If the Angemailten should be available a certain knowledge status to the topic with one, I would be glad over notes to the topic On the search for responses to my questions maile I different addresses from the Internet on, and hope up-constructional responses and criticisms.Over an attendance on the page <http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html>

wuerde I are pleased.

There I since longer with exclusion lists work it cannot be normally, that a Mailadresse one angemailt doubly.

The reason for my anonymity is the fact that with such Fragenstellerei, understandably, fast after the call the Psychatrie loud becomes. Which also method hat(ist). If you should feel the Mail as annoyance, I would like to apologize hereby for it!

The artificial Spam hysteria can, are used, in order to prevent the possibility, in the case of a violation of human rights, to create public?

Does the InterNet become waterproof???

Big Brother is watching you?

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Veuillez excuser le dérangement!

Moi quelque chose concernant des oreilles est venu. Une cuisine de bruit relativement inhabituelle, dont on m'a placé un Sueppchen schwerverdauliches devant, est la raison de mes Mail. Aucune expression n'est peu appétissante!

Il est possible sur un Wege(in funktechnischem pour quelles réponses fréquentielles?) quelqu'un influencer ou manipuler? Ou même schikanieren et terroriser? Sous le Motto:"Einen au Sender?Nich tout à fait seulement? Petits Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlaenge?Bohnen dans les oreilles? Sur la dent gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal non contraignant reinhoeren? Le Pullacher Wanzentanz? Le Spinnerei?Das n'est-il quand mê me pas du tout va, ou?

Et si comme cela paraît éthiquement moralement? Au côté technique de la chose, il y a certes des rapports et des
Webseiten:

Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik

[pages - list above]

usw.

toutefois qui ne peut quand même pas ê tre qui on fait soetwas, ou? Une violation des droits de l'homme sé parer ressembler!?! Il est possible, par la préparation, des oreilles et dans l'effet avec la prothèse dentaire éventuellement existante? Avec la technique de radio relativement simple?? Dans ce Land?Hier et aujourd'hui

Sous quels motifs? Où le département est-il en réalité 5 du BND et de la protection d'constitution? peut il être qu'il y a les personnes qui livrent en permanence le BND/Verfassungsschutz, de manière funktechnischem un rapport de situation, sans le remarquer le -même , dans l'enfance rendu possible??

Par de tels collaborateurs officieux, avec le BND et la protection d'constitution, après manière, des informations sont-elles rassemblées et plus de, purement théoriquement, chaque citoyen allemand?

Il y a alors encore un droit à des Privatsphere? Qui contrôle en réalité le BND, mad et protection d'constitution sur une infiltration???

Il s'agit en réalité dans le Mail me la question de savoir si lui éléments criminels, dont le motif de l'enrichissement, ou de groupements des motifs idéologiques, possible de s'acquérir le savoir et la technique qui à d'autres temps, est autre MotivenEt place-t-il le savoir technique dont le public vraiment la fin la barre de drapeau a connaissance ?

Il n'est pas donc exactement la mê me chose possible pour des éléments criminels, moi cela maintenant fois verharmlost et minimisant une légende, personnes ou groupes particuliers avec des moyens relativement simples, de quels motifs aussi toujours, auszuspionieren?(Westfernsehen?), a été développé.Et ce "Ausspioniererei" ne repré sente-t-il pas une intervention considérable dans la vie privée?

Il est possible personnes ou groupes particuliers, pour certain Oeffentlichkeit (suggeriert?), celui p. ex. à l'aide des côtés Internet, comme par exemple "le Pranger" geschaffen pourrait, fois vorausgestzt schikanieren terroriesieren et ou, et qui toute (suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben les personnes ceux là, ou d'un autre côté verunglimpft, ou on ne pas calomnie, en réalité une chance au Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist qui meurtre d'appel?

Il y a quelques années, je ne suis pas encore par hasard sur le côté "celui" poussé, fonctionnais alors cela sous la couche de pont de l'entremise partenaire.

Des personnes particulières, ou des communautés d'intérêts le peuventelles, d'un autobut pur, de tels côtés servent, sous la couche de pont d'un Zivilkourage douteux, tracent plus de des campagnes de précipitation, propres intérêts tout à fait persoehnliche entremêlent? De tels côtés peuvent-ils servir à la coordination des manoeuvres criminelles?

Question, est lui possibilité ou impossibilité de manipuler ou d'influencer techniquement et socialement, particulière personnes, ou aussi groupements, criminelle/ponctuel idéologique Energei dehors, , terroriser ou schickanieren, et ce.Une manipulation de groupe cible par des masse-médias être la manipulation quotidienne qui peut extraire mansich, plus ou moins.

Le droit à la vie privée est-il miné, ramment, tiefenpsychologisch, par des envois, comme, par exemple "des Big brother"?

Avec un les Angemailten si un certain savoir devait exister sur le thème, je serais heureux sur des indications sur le thème.Sur la recherche des réponses à mes questions je différentes adresses maile d'Internet dessus, et espère réponses et critiques aufkonstruktive. Sur une visite du côté http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html je me réjouirais.

Si vous deviez avoir été écrit à différentes reprises par moi, je vous demande de m'excuser cela qui n'était pas envisagé.

Puisque je travaille depuis plus longtemps avec ausschlusslisten, il ne peut pas normalement être, qu'un Mailadresse devient double angemailt.

La raison de mon anonymat est le fait qu'avec telle des Fragenstellerei, l'appel devient ce qui est bien compréhensible, rapidement bruyant après le Psychatrie. Ce que la méthode a également (ist).

Spam l'hystérie artificielle peut,on utilise,pour empêcher la possibilité,en cas de violation des droits de l'homme,public créer? Internet devient imperméable à l'eau???

Big brother is watching you?

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Könnte mir jemand bei der korrekten Überstzung helfen?

Could someone help me with the correct translation?

Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider lors du Ueberstzung correct?

English

Francais





Subject: Atlantis problem Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:26:06 +0100 To: Dude655@aol.com

Yup, like Carl Sagan (a _good_ scientist from a poor background) always said: our teachers and scientists mostly come from colleges/universities serving the status quo so they have little talent (see Dexterity) and no motivation (see Greatest) for real investigation
regards

ed@percs

(which probably explains why we ordinary folk see new truths way before our "leaders" can)





Subject: Re: Atlantis problem Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:00:17 EDT From:Dude655@aol.com

Ya, like my teacher gave me homework on the "legend" of Atlantis

I mean if it"s just a legend why do I have to give a report on it?




Subject: Atlantis problem Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:55:53 +0100

Lo Dude

Your "Atlantis" query is sort-of interesting, because most mainstream historians and scientists say "It's a myth" without considering necessary cause of myths

A myth is made up to explain something significant but totally unexplainable - like all groups / tribes / religions have their own creation link myths, and Sun/Moon myths, and weather myths - to suit their own circumstances

So - how come there's a "myth" to explain something we wouldn't even know about?  A made-up city/island/continent?

Seems to me that the Atlantis reports (& that's all we've got) - first dating from Greek / Roman times we understand (see below) but probably rooted much further back - should be regarded as we now regard the various "Flood" legends in various cultures

That is, as mangled surviving remnants of word-of-mouth history - of an event that actually happened, in some form or another
regards
ed@percs

*later - Jennifer Westwood's "Lost Atlantis" [in "Mysteries of the Ancient World" - Editor: Judith Flanders, 1999 ISBN 1-84188-024-8] cites Plato (Greek) in "Timaeus" & "Critias" where he wrote that his (Plato's) ancestors said Solon got Atlantis info from priests of Sais (Egypt) who dated `sinking' as more than 11,000 yrs ago.
See also underseacities





Subject: Question Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:56:36 EDT From: Dude655@aol.com

What is lost city of Atlantis anyway?


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