"Anomalous events on the Berwyns - BBC obfuscation of truth" Subject: Re: BBC Radio 4 UFO Programme Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:17:44 +0000 From: Ray Dickenson >From: Andy Roberts >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:13:22 -0000 >Subject: Re: BBC Radio 4 UFO Programme > All those who either think they *should* have been > involved immediately slide out of the woodwork in an attempt > to raise their stock. This gives them the illusion that their > absence from these programs was in some way inconsequential or > immaterial, when in reality, as I previously noted, it's just > sour grapes. You have fun with Channel 5 Nick. I'm sure > 'Monster Films'' documentary will be just as revlealing as the > Radio 4 program. Hello Andy, and All, Typically passage of time allows some evidence to emerge, but also permits obscuring and suppression of sensitive stuff. We often see wild claims being made - and famously debunked while the issue is still live - but only much, much later does it emerge that those were planted and sponsored by people in the establishment or by `security' agents - see www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/wb2.html Looking at _totality_ of the Berwyn event we see: a) reports of mystery lights in sky / mystery helicopters etc over an area of NW UK for some months before - ceasing at the Berwyn event. b) on the night, amateur astronomers reported anomalous low-flying "meteors" from various parts of UK (one chap in eastern England phoned a colleague to the west and between them got a track on their "meteor" - it was headed towards the Berwyns (point X). [a) and b) seem to have been suppressed in the record - mainstream scientists are easily scared by establishment threats of ridicule - see www.perceptions.couk.com/ukgmbias.txt c) on the night, a medium strength "earthquake" at point X. d) on the night, circling "lights in the sky" above point X. e) on the night, "large circle of orange light" (with smaller white lights moving around it) at point X. f) on the night and long afterwards, "establishment/security" presence - under various deniable guises - at and around point X. g) years afterwards - a continuing "refurbishing" of the records, and, maybe more importantly, continuing alteration of perceptions of the event - the BBC program being only the latest. To check the ease with which memory is altered - see www.perceptions.couk.com/percepts.html#realities Detailed perceptions of the Berwyn event seem to be following an all too familiar descent into obfuscation, but, from alonger-range and wider viewpoint, the events - however reported or "explained" - are statistically anomalous to say the least. Indeed b) seems a specially impossible "explanation" - since meteorites may explode or diverge but _never_ converge with other meteorites. Ask astronomers for the odds on rocks from different parts of the universe agreeing to meet up over a Welsh mountain! [ insert - to synchronize with a local "earthquake"? - get away! ] Only recently began examining UFO scene, but am struck by the obscuration and obfuscation in this area of general scientific interest. Best regards Ray Dickenson ------- Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:08:33 +0000 Quick PS to last Today's "Feedback" (BBC R4 13:30 GMT) contained unanimous criticism of the program for its "dumbed-down debunking" approach. The production team refused to come and answer the criticism but issued a prepared statement which revealed more than they meant to. It claimed absolute impartiality but concluded that the Berwyn event had a "perfectly rational" (non-UFO) explanation. BBC team admitted (unwittingly) that they (and Andy?) think the UFO subject is "irrational" So much for BBC impartiality. best regards Ray Dickenson --- --- >From: Dan Bright >Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:24:26 -0000 >Subject: Re: BBC Radio 4 UFO Programme - Bright >Did the BBC team broaden their statement to refer to _all_ >UFO research? Indeed, how could the study an 'unidentified' >object be considered "irrational"? On the other hand, a >conclusion of ET visitation would be so, in the absence of >evidence to support that claim. Hello Dan, Friday's "Feedback" had unanimous criticism of Berwyn program's "dumbed-down, debunking" approach. The prepared statement of the production team claimed impartiality and went on to say that its approach was "perfectly rational". They clearly did not think any UFO scenario (never mind ETH) was worth considering. Presumably "rational" was meant to describe their piecemeal labeling & dismissal of evidence or even ignoring evidence. I.e. the build-up over some months - then, on the night - the coincidence of anomalous (directed?) "meteors" _and_ an "earthquake" etc. Don't wish or claim _any_ "ufology" experience or know-how, just examine _all_ available evidence logically. Experience shows that establishment claims of "rationality" almost always covers-up an irrational clinging to yesterday's "safe" paradigm. www.perceptions.couk.com/blinded.html#egs Regards, Ray Dickenson ------------------------------------------------------------ The _real_ establishment view? Here it is:- Extract from The Brookings Report Report No 242 87th Congress 1st Session "Proposed studies on the implications of peaceful space activities for human affairs" For NASA by the Brookings Institution Committee on Science and Astronautics (34 men 1 woman) "It has been speculated that, of all groups, scientists and engineers might be the most devastated by the discovery of relatively superior creatures, since these professions are most clearly associated with the mastery of nature rather than with the understanding and expression of man" "Advanced understanding of nature might vitiate all our theories at the very least, if not also require a culture and perhaps a brain inaccessible to earth scientists" --- "Brookings Report" - kept under wraps for many years - went on to propose keeping secret any contact with alien cultures under the guise of preventing a "collapse of civilization" --- So let's check our civilization and its science. What shape is it in? Try "blind science" www.perceptions.couk.com/blinded.html --------------------------------------------------- FURTHER REFERENCES GO - "search perceptions" - in SEARCH-ENGINE file-ID www.perceptions.couk.com/berwyns.txt