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Subject: re News 4975821 (BBC) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:56:58 +0100 From: Editor - Perceptions <editor perceptions.couk.com> To: INFO@bbc.co.uk

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To INFO (BBC)

Dr Kwangwook Cho [Bristol University] presented data concerning female flight crew suffering "flight trauma"

As a scientist he could give no scientific findings for other different groups in quite different circumstances on which he had no data.

A media ploy is to pose vague `harmless' query in order to elicit "Yes" / "No" then inflate that into - "... the interviewee stated / claimed that ..."

The BBC clearly got a "Yes" to the vague question "Could lack of sleep and irregular hours _possibly_ have similar effects?"

[Anyone _must_ answer "Yes" to such a question; undeniably it's `possible' - but that is meaningless in a scientific sense]

Even so the BBC was not content with inflating that to "shrunken brains ... the scientist agreed that (lack of sleep / irregular hours etc) _could_ have similar effects" - which we heard in the 08:00 news broadcast.

An implied untruth.

At 08:30 we heard "shrunken brains ... it was _found_ that (young mothers, shift workers etc) suffer similar effects" [paraphrased].

A downright lie.

The statement was totally unsubstantiated; there has been no such data gathered. That is scientific fraud.

I repeat:

>I believe the BBC owes a real apology to the Bristol University team >and a real explanation to the British public.

>Why did the BBC lie?

>Was the BBC told to lie?

>Does the BBC get instructions from a) big business - maybe S.I.T.A. - >the international airlines? or b) Government(s) - >British or otherwise? see http://www.perceptions.couk.com/manip.html

>I would really like a reply to these questions. But I'm not holding my >breath

[editor perceptions.couk.com]



Subject: News 4975821 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:32:42 +0100 (BST) From: INFO@bbc.co.uk To: editor perceptions.couk.com

Dear Mr Dickenson

The BBC stands by the facts mentioned in our reports on jet lag and we robustly refute your claim that the BBC lied. It is the author of the study Dr Kawngwook Cho, who suggested that any worker who swaps from night to day shifts over a short period may be at risk. We do not deny that the study was conducted on 20 women but the fact this was not mentioned in the Radio 4 bulletin does not mean our coverage was misleading - rather there is a limited time in news bulletins to convey information. The 8.30 bulletin on 21 May which you originally referred to lasted just over one minute. Accordingly, the information was condensed into its core elements to for inclusion the report. In longer bulletins, such as reports on Breakfast on BBC ONE that day, mentioned the study was conducted on women because they are most affected by jet lag.

I suggest that for the full details about this matter you refer to the June 2001 issue of

'Nature Neuroscience', where the body of Dr Cho's study is published.

Yours sincerely

Marcus Foreman

Editorial & Investigation Team

BBC Information


Subject: News Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:38:22 +0100 From: Editor - Perceptions <editor perceptions.couk.com> To: Connell McFlynn <INFO@BBC.CO.UK>, biology.dept@bristol.ac.uk, communications-office@bristol.ac.uk, "bsc@bsc.org.uk" <bsc@bsc.org.uk>, "vlc@bbc.co.uk" <vlc@BBC.CO.UK>

Hello Mr. McFlynn Thanks for the message

I believe your 'apology' as worded is misleading.

I believe the claim made by a BBC editor that people other than flight crew suffer similar effects ("shrunken brains") was unsubstantiated and groundless, a propaganda lie intended to fool / reassure the traveling public.

That claim was made - not "later" as you say - but as an actual part of the news item re "shrunken brains." Therefore the BBC was misrepresenting the scientific data presented by the Bristol University team.

See http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,72-205037,00.html and the words: "The tests were conducted on female crew members, because women appeared to suffer more acute jet lag" The Bristol University team gave only data regarding female flight crew.

I believe the BBC owes a real apology to the Bristol University team and a real explanation to the British public.

Why did the BBC lie? Was the BBC told to lie? Does the BBC get instructions from a) big business - maybe S.I.T.A. - the international airlines?

or b) Government(s) - British or otherwise? see http://www.perceptions.couk.com/manip.html

I would really like a reply to these questions. But I'm not holding my breath

best regards

[editor perceptions.couk.com]





Connell McFlynn wrote:
>Dear Mr Dickenson

>Thank you for your further e-mail.

>Please accept my apologies for any apparent confusion regarding >your last e-mail.

>In a study of airline cabin crew, it has been shown that part of the >brain can become smaller after 5 years of regular jet-lag. Bristol >University researchers found that memory is most affected.

>It was later reported that a lack of the right sort of sleep could >affect shift workers.

>Parents of young children could also be affected. Dr Kwangwook >Cho was interviewed on this subject.

>May I suggest that for further details, you contact Bristol >University where the studies took place.

>Thank you again for taking the time to contact the BBC.

>Regards

>Connell McFlynn

>BBC Information




>From : [ed perceptions.couk.com]

>Subject : Re: BBC News 4800305

>Hello "Info"

>You apparently 'misunderstood' my message.

>I did not ask for "comments to be registered" by some bureaucrat. I asked for >the facts to which BBC News broadcasters were apparently referring

>I.e.. Which university / department / researcher was being quoted and where is >the full Press Release?

>Please supply me with these facts as soon as possible.

>regards

[ed perceptions.couk.com]




>INFO@BBC.CO.UK wrote:

>Dear Mr Dickinson

>Thank you for your e-mail in relation to BBC News.

>Please let me assure you that I have registered your comments in relation to this >matter and have made them available to the News Departments and BBC >management.

>Thank you once again for taking the time to contact the BBC with your >comments >on this matter.

>Regards

>Karel Molloy

>BBC Information




> [ed perceptions.couk.com]

>Subject : flight trauma

>Hello, yesterday morning 0800 BBC news reader - "Researcher at Bristol >University says "regular fight crew have "shrunken brain" - more so with >those with short turn-round ie. less time between return flights."

>The BBC newsreader made a point of saying - in the item - that the >"researcher added that shift workers might suffer similar effects" but with no >evidence quoted.

>This seems to be an attempt to calm fears and cover-up the (forecast by me) >effects on tissue caused by high speed, high altitude flight (particularly West - >East night-time flights).

>At 0835 BBC R4 news reader said - "have "found" that shift workers >suffer same effects - again no evidence quoted.

>Please give all actual facts on this item and clarify the confusion.

>regards

>Ray Dickenson


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