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Subject: "Space, Matter, Thought" Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:12:04 +0100 To: Madhu Saxena <saxclan@****>

Re SMT

Hello Dr. Saxena

Thanks for interesting news about chiming ideas on "thought" and also of your forthcoming book.

Still collecting data, however if you want to check consciousness, percepts, wallace, struggle, and maybe even magic2 for possible references, please go ahead.

Any personal divergence or `cut-off point' is the reader's choice (and anyone's welcome to send input on "thought"

Best regards
ed@percs





Subject: Re: "Name for the type of our universe" Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:05:38 +0530 From: "Madhu Saxena"

Dear [ ed@percs - to our answer re: uniname ]

Thanks for your mail.  I think it was `Perceptions' under "Space, Matter and Thought".

Actually it was because I am interested in this matter on thought and a book covering "Thought Process" is under preparation by me.

I wanted to see the latest world wide views on net.  During this surfing I had visited that page.  To my surprise I found similar views as expressed by me in my book without seeing anybody's views or research earlier.  My writing was purely on the basis of my own perception.

In view of the above I request you to send any information which you find interesting.

Thanks and regards.
Dr. Madhu Saxena




Subject: Wallace materials Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:54:54 -0500 From: Charles Smith Organization: Western Kentucky University

Ray:
Just saw today your piece in `Perceptions' on Alfred Russel Wallace, with material borrowed largely from my site.  Thanks for plainly labelling the source of your quotes -- not everybody does this! Many people are paraphrasing material from my site without crediting it; I only really mind when whole passages or works are lifted in toto and not credited even when not re-formatted!

The way you have put things together, however, is more the kind of thing that I hoped would happen: I can't, of course, go at it with too much gush since I am trying to maintain the "academic" nature of the site, which is to say reasonably objective.

Nevertheless it's nice to see someone such as yourself who can glean the essential and put it together into a compact "journalistic" piece -- so, thanks!

Charles H. Smith

[editor of "The Alfred Russel Wallace Page"]




Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 22:11:32 +0100 To: John Charville <JohnCharville@***>

Lo John

That sounds like good news for your cause

We feel, from non-political ref-01 POV, that the two/three main parties've got the media sewn-up and are only interested in bribing middle-England - which is why so many voiceless minorities' [or even majorities'] interests ref-02 are being ignored / oppressed at this time.

Good luck
ed@percs





Subject: European Community Law Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:54:39 EDT From: JohnCharville@***


SEE LAWPAGE?


I have just had a most encouraging chat with Mr Tom Wise of the Chelmsford Branch of the UK Independance Party.

He firstly advised me that the issues that we have raised with his office had not previously been brought to the attention of the UK Independance Party.  Mr Wise informs me that he is relying upon Mr Barry Worrall to supply him with much needed information that will allow his office to formulate a plan of action on our behalf.

I have stressed the point that the European Community already secures our Rights to the Protection of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights through Article 6 of the Treaty on European Union, which Mr Wise consedes.  I further stressed that Mr Titford can without further investigation raise the Violation of our Rights to the Protection of Community Law with the Treaty Violations Commission / European Commission who have the responsibility of enforcing Community Law in Member States.

Mr Wise also acknowledged our complaints in respect of the refusal to act upon Elsholz v Germany, referring to the information originally supplied.

Mr Wise accepts that Child Abuse on such a grand scale, through Parental Alienation Syndrome is an issue that needs addressing as soon as possible.

It is reassuring that Mr Wise was able to relate to me that he has friends and associates who have been, like us, put through the "Mill" by our unjust Family Court System.  It is reassuring because it brings home how extensive the problem really is, and the fact that the issues we raise are in desparate need of being addressed.

We managed in our brief time on the phone to discuss the refusal by the Police to investigate criminal acts perpetrated by Professionals who use their positions to fabricate evidence of child abuse on the part of fathers, whilst suppressing evidence of an abusing mother, and the very real harm caused to children by Parental Alienation Syndrome.  We touched on the perjury that takes place in our Family Courts on a daily basis, where the Authorities rely upon the Closed Family Courts to perpetuate their crimes.

All of which I believe Mr Wise hopes will eventually be addressed.

It is my hope now, that Mr Wise and Mr Titford will raise the whole issue with the rest of the UK Independance Party.  Perhaps The UK Independance Party will be able to force media interest in this very serious subject and secure media support for rectifying the ills affecting families and their children.

I now await further developments.

Regards Jon C




Subject: great references - overlapping issues Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:16:23 +0100 To: m lost

SPLIT - PART OF MESSAGE AT SCIMAIL


Hello M

Thanks for references

Social stuff - Re "physical" solutions to social ills (like Spooner's recommendations):- `Perceptions' has to assess them in light of `altruist survivor principle' which basically says human (or any other beings) social problems are either:-
i) temporary evolutionary quandaries - e.g, current human sex/gender confusions or
ii) eternal choices facing all intelligent beings at any time - e.g. oppression / murder due to "tragedy of the commons"
In either case `altruist survivor principle' implies that ills are (slowly) being cured by evolution of social beings (extinction of anti-social beings).

This links with science stuff:- 'cos `life' always contradicts "2nd Law of Thermodynamics" and is seemingly compelled to become more organized, less entropic.  See "Order v Chaos" debate.

Please keep up good work - you're needed
regards

ed@percs





SPLIT - PART OF MESSAGE AT SCIMAIL

Subject: earth's magnetic poles Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: m lost


I like your site.

If you ever get the chance read Lysander Spooner's 'letter to President Grover Cleveland" and his 'remedy for the oppresed classes of England'. www.lysanderspooner.org/BIB.htm

www.geocities.com/individualistanarchist/1.html huge & gr8 site that has intelligent writers.

www.jpfo.org/L-laws.htm book review worth reading

http://www.jail4judges.net/cfdocs/index.cfm posible reference source

[from]




Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 02:39:53 +0100

Hello friends,

1 - your mailto's have been stripped so folks can choose their own messages
2 - you wisely request help from our readers, but unwisely demand obedience from political or religious enemies.  Why - to insult someone?
3 - we don't accept religious or political proselytizing - final warning
["De gustibus ..." - "useless to argue over tastes"]

regards
ed@percs

[we bet our readers could've composed the message below - in three sentences]





Subject: Blind political prisoner in danger of losing life Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:30:34 -0300 From: "Cuba:" <LibertyForDrGonzalez@yahoo.com>

MIAMI (DI, Jul. 6, 2002) - The attorney and Christian Human Rights activist Juan Carlos González Leiva, 37 years old, is being physically and psychologically tortured in the State Security prison in the city of Holguín, in eastern Cuba, and his life is at risk. This was the denouncement sent overseas via telephone by his wife, Maritza Calderín Columbie.

MUCH MORE BUT [2003] WILL TRIM EXCEPT FOR LINKS

ImmediatelyReleaseDr.GonzálezLeiva! <mailto:cubaminrex@minrex.gov.cu, secconscuba@worldnet.att.net, embacuba@uol.com.br, inter_american@hotmail.com, admin-us@aiusa.org

<mailto:human_rights@hotmail.com? Subject=My-Help>

E-mail: human_rights@hotmail.com

* State Security Prison in Pedernales, Holguin Tel.: (532) 4422369 Carretera Central, vía a Bayamo, Provincia de Holguín, Cuba

* Foreign Relations Minister of Cuba Felipe Pérez Roque, Minister E-mail: cubaminrex@minrex.gov.cu Tels.: (537) 553537, 553260 Fax: (537) 333460 Calzada #360, Vedado, La Habana, Cuba.

* Cuban Interests Section in Washington E-mail: secconscuba@worldnet.att.net Fax: (1-202) 986-7283 2630 16 Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20009

* Embaixada de Cuba em Brasilia Jorge Lezcano Pérez, Embaixador E-mail: embacuba@uol.com.br, Tels.: (61) 2484710, 2484130, 2484517 y 2484215 Faxes: (61) 248 6778 y 248 7559




Subject: Info on `Perceptions' Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 18:25:58 +0100 To: "Dr. Ian Smooth" <web4u@loxinfo.co.th>

Hello Ian,

Re your request for info on `Perceptions' - No, we don't seek donations, over the Internet or otherwise

Money / power influence ref-01 eventually biases data - so we steer clear ref-02 as long as we can

'Cos `charity' ref-03 in England consists of generous poor folk [unknowingly] supporting rich professionals ref-04 [ditto English tax system ref-05]

[Like `foreign aid' = poor people ref-05 in rich countries subsidizing rich people in poor countries]

`Perceptions' is about exposing all that stuff.  However, as English nat'l & local bureaucrats seem keen on silencing us - you might get a call sometime after all.

Cheers
ed@percs

Forgot to ask the good doctor why his mail-server's in Thailand





Subject: Do you accept Internet Donations? Date: 05 Jul 02 12:29:43 +-0700 From: "Dr. Ian Smooth"<web4u@loxinfo.co.th>

Hello, I am seeking some information on your organization.  Do you currently seek or let benefactors make donations over the Internet?
Sincere regards,
Dr. Ian Smooth
Charity Foundation
Scottsdale, Arizona, U.S.A.




Subject: Economic Justice Update Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 05:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: banneker

ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND THE GREEN MOVEMENT

The 22nd Annual Conference of the Council of Georgist Organizations August 21-25, 2002 at the Delta London Armouries Hotel, in "the Forest City" of London, Ontario

This conference is devoted to understanding and advancing principles of economic justice, with a focus on relationships between sprawl, urban decay, pollution, environmental destruction, trade problems, deepening debt, and poverty.  It draws heavily on Henry George's ideas about land tenure and taxation, which have been credited with launching the Progressive Era.

Speakers include leaders from First Nations, Canadian Greens, the Council of Canadians, and the Canadian Action Party, local politicians, and economists.

All these groups share a quest for clear principles that can help remedy social ills.  This quest lies at the heart of our conference.

Themes will include: Green Communities and Zero Waste; Ecology and First Nations; Globalization and Free Trade; Green Taxes for Sustainability; The Politics of Money; Peace, War, and Land Rights.

General Information: Contact the conference administrators Sue or Scott Walton at 847-475-0931 or (in the US, toll-free) 888-262-9015, or fax: 775-248-8630
or e-mail: swalton@surfbest.net

"Taxes on income, payroll, property and retail sales discourage entrepreneurship hiring, investment, savings and work... they also encourage sprawl, depletion of natural resources and pollution of land, air and water.... They could be replaced with taxes on land values and on actions that pollute, deplete or destroy habitat"
Alan Thein Durning - "This Place on Earth"

"We need a big debate on different kinds of taxation, to talk about how corporations are freeloading on public services and getting tax breaks while taxes are falling on workers and smaller businesses.  We need to open a debate about land taxation and Henry George, to tax bad things, not good things, and not to tax people who go to work every day"
Ralph Nader

"We do not return to the earth what we take from it; each crop that is harvested leaves the soil the poorer.  We are cutting down forests which we do not replant, we are... flushing into the sea through the sewers of our great cities the elements of fertility that have been embedded in the soil by the slow processes of nature, acting for long ages"Henry George - "Social Problems" (1883)

www.progress.org/ejn/

Until next time,

Hanno Beck

Banneker Center for Economic Justice




Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:50:44 +0100 - to Neelu Berry <apkv67@dial.pipex.com>

Hello Neelu Berry

From medical and laworjustice we see that cover-up still seems the rule in many English institutions (especially coroner's courts), though they're supposed to investigate on our behalf.

Secrecy automatically breeds corruption.

best wishes

ed@percs





Subject: Routine NHS Murders - Call for public Inquiry Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:56:46 +0100

Routine NHS Murders - Call for public Inquiry

How NHS murders are routinely covered up by a chain of public bodies, including Coroners, as evidenced by the alleged unlawful killing of Baby Sunaina by NHS doctors and a nurse.

1. 4 month old baby given ten times overdose of Ranitidine by GP (Drug not licensed for use in children under 2 years of age).  Effects on heart and breathing.  Oxygen required.

2. Overdose continued during hospital admission.  False diagnosis faked as cause for the admission.  Oxygen stopped.  Mother turned it back on.  Mother considered for Sectioning under the Mental Health Act.

3. DNR placed in medical file by Great Ormond Street without seeing patient, without a court order or discussions with parents.  Palliative care commenced.  Parents objected.

4. Parents removed from baby's hospital side by social workers and police officers under a Children's Act Protection order and arrest warrant, so in the best interests of child to be "allowed" to die.  All family barred from visits.  Transfer to another hospital barred.

5. Potassium Chloride prescribed 12 hours prior to death.

6. Potassium Chloride administered 4 times and entries obliterated.

7. Death an hour after fourth dose whilst parents fighting in court to overturn the Protection Order.  Evidence of suffocation, drowning, dehydration and hyperthermia.

8. Potassium Chloride not detectable in post-mortem.

9. All organs removed 4 days prior to the post-mortem, including eye-balls, tongue, brain and all internal organs, even after allegations of an unlawful killing made to Police.

10. Coroner lied about whereabouts of the body.

11. Coroner refused all witnesses from family.

12. Coroner refused family's legal representation.

13. Bias of Coroner subject two High Court and one Appeal Court hearings (Chaudhari vs Walthamstow Coroner's Court and Berry & Chaudhari vs Walthamstow Coroners Court)

14. Body remains in mortuary.  Regional NHS office have halted all further investigations on the body.  No viewings of body permitted.

We are asking for volunteers to please print the petition form on www.sunaina.co.uk, make copies, distribute them, gather signatures and send completed forms to the address at the top of the forms.  Please pass on this email freely to other organisations.

Neelu Berry
Co-ordinator, Pharmacist, and aunt of Baby Sunaina
Sunaina Petition Committee
3, Peel Drive, Ilford Essex IG5 0JR
Tel/Fax 0 44 (0) 208 550 8312
Email: apkv67@dial.pipex.com




Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 - to Rob Brooks (Paseeda?) SENSITIVE e-MAIL ADDRESS?

Hello
Can't claim to be `successful' at anything, pal...

Our stuff might be making a few guilty ones feel nervous...But that kind can't feel `guilty' - they've insulated themselves against conscience ref-01 & ref-02

All we can do here is to tell the truth simply & clearly.

We try to do that but when you're angry it can be difficult.  Just have to re-read and cut - a lot.

ed@percs

Would-be `infiltrators' can relax, there's nothing to infiltrate - go back to your station or `safe-house' and have a cold shower.





Tuesday, 25 June 2002

Paraphrased from 3 or four messages rx'd today from Rob Brooks / Rick Paseeda? whose [somewhat inconclusive] messages you've maybe read earlier - here & here

Rob seems to want to find out about `Perceptions' security [from this page?]




Subject: inefficient & corrupt taxation Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:05:34 +0100 To:James H D Steele

Hello James

Right! Only middle-sized and "small" people now really ref-01 pay tax [in Britain ]

Majority's demand - for an honest, economical tax system - is today suppressed by threats of further oppression by our wasteful and venal ref-02 "leaders" or their mandarins.

This proves the system has become corrupt - as Adam Smith prophesied in his "Maxims".ref-03

regards
ed@percs





Subject:Re your tax pages Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:28:06 +0000
From:james.steele13@***


I have not read all your tax perceptions/truths, but wish to add if not there already that VAT is totally unfair.  It does not take into consideration the ability to pay.  Everytime I put the question to the chancellor of whatever party is in office I get the same reply ' You should charge it out to you customer'  The truth is that with unregistered competition around us we have to compete on price and therefore absorb the VAT ourselves.  The equation works out that if we take £100k per annum gross, then our overheads come off at £80k per annum we have £20k left but C&Excise demand we pay them £17.5k which leaves us almost broke with just £2,500 to live off for the year.  How can that be fair? And what makes this worse is that it seems all the official bodies pertaining to help the small businesses (Such as the FPB) just bury their heads in the sand when it comes to challenging VAT.  There is seemingly no justice!

Kind regards
Mr James H D Steele
(Business Advisor)

Note - we've already exposed these shameful VAT/FUEL and TAX3 facts - Now corrupt elite are out for our blood.
Ed.





Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:02:53 +0000 To: "John P. Clarke" <ocdhelp4me@earthlink.net>

Hello John,

1) Your message is posted at [here]

2) It was posted before replying - now [from Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:59:11 +0000] getting "Mail Quota FULL" returns.  Obviously you're getting a good response from our readers

Best wishes
ed@percs





Subject: I have OCD and need help Date:Tue, 26 Mar 2002 05:34:26 From: "John P. Clarke" <ocdhelp4me@earthlink.net>

I've read books, done therapy, and consulted with many for over 16 years without any substantial progress.  Among other problems, I need to deal with a mental compulsion to break apart words and phrases into symmetrical groups, the continual counting and sorting of everything I see, and the uncontrollable parade of ideas in my head competing for attention.  This interferes with concentration, impairs decision-making, and leads to frustration and depression.

I would welcome suggestions, possible solutions, reference materials, referrals, anything you might recommend.  Please email me at ocdhelp4me@earthlink.net

Thank you for your help.
Sincerely,
John P. Clarke



Subject: re: "Being s****ed by legal profession" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:16 +0000 To:Julianna Broad <juliannaelisa@***>

Lo Arlene,

OK.  Putting your message, with email address - (we don't often publish women's addresses) - in page.  Let's hope some advice forthcoming

Please keep us informed

regards

ed@percs

and, 'tho don't/can't give legal advice, put info in a PS to Arlene which might help focussing on the problem - we'll wait for developments on this one



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newUK-Citizens BENT LAW - A REMEDY?


ADD: quick note from Arlene says:
"Specialist in Housing law and Human rights needed.  There's a precedent to be set if successful and of course all the free publicity that goes hand in hand.
Thanks
Arlene
juliannaelisa@yahoo.co.uk




Subject: Being s****ed by legal profession Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:39:21 +0000
From:"Julianna Broad" <juliannaelisa@yahoo.co.uk>


Dear Ed

I badly need your help.  I have been s****ed by the legal system.  Lost possession of my home.  Attempting appeal having difficulty.  Reason for possession anti-social behaviour-landlords having a laugh registered seriously disabled.  Evidence from one neighbour whom I have an injuction against for various acts of harrasment/abuse including urinating in my garden in front of guests.  Other evidence came from the hearsay of a schizophrenic prostitute (she was my upstairs neighbour for a time) this young woman flooded my very desirable home six times in five months.  I must be the only person in Britain to have lost possession of home on spurious allegation (not one iota of evidence) I'm lost, madder than hell and won't stop till I actually do run out of breath.  Please helppppppp.

Need a solicitor with cohonies someone not afraid to challenge the unfairness of it all.  Obviously the judge did his wicked best in his judgement to make it look realistic.  Very sick judgement wholly inaccurate.  No idea how deep the entire business goes never ever believed I would lose my home on type of evidence produced.  Still fighting on though don't know how much good this will do, if nepotism is the order of the day.

Thanks for your time.
Arlene

[ed. had to **** over that "haft" in Arlene's message. - 'Cause `Perceptions' is listed as "controversial but family-friendly" - and indexes check with humorless robots - Got to smile tho']



Subject: LAWPAGE Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 22:26:08 +0000 To: John Charville <JohnCharville@***>

SKIP TWO MESSAGES
John realized we don't like LAW, and he decided to open his own LAW PAGE

REPLY


Hi John,

Now that sounds more manageable - and much more readily flagged and linked from our header pages (indexes) and any relevant subject pages

[some maybe unwanted advice]

But that'll be up to you! If you need a wysiwyg HTML editor which is fast to learn, do a search for "aolp20_32.exe" (3,517Kb)

That issue is freeware

If more expert "Arachnophilia" is out there

Go for it friend! And keep us informed.

ed@percs



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newUK-Citizens BENT LAW - A REMEDY?


Subject: Corruption Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 19:09:55 EST From: JohnCharville@***

Yoh Ed,

Are yu interested in putting up a Webpage with various laws etc, and how to bring your own case?

The one thing I have learned is that solicitors are part of the corruption team, and it is the ignorance of the law on the part of the accused that the system relies upon.

I am having to bringing my own case.  It is actually very cheap.

The real problem is knowing the Law.

Regards John C




Subject: Your "bent police" message Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 23:46:09 +0000 To: John Charville <JohnCharville@***>

Lo John,

Yes - we've seen those with career/family links in police, magistrates & judiciary who've misused that power for their own fraudulent/criminal purposes.

Then the English law's corrupt 'old-boy network' can inflict heavy injustice on innocent citizens.

But our parliament [congress] is packed with parasitic attorneys so there is no political will to clean up our corrupt senior police and even more corrupt lawyers, barristers & judges.

Please keep us informed.

ed@percs

[John & anyone else who wants to search `Perceptions' are best-off using "search page"]




Subject: Bent Police Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:00:21 EST From: John Charville To: editor perceptions.couk.com

Dear Ed

I am currently seeking a hearing in the High Court against the Lord Chancellor, in respect of Criminal Violations of my rights to respect for my private and family life.

I can prove that I was framed on false accusations of sexual abuse of my daughter in support of my former wife a long service police officer's daughter, all to deny me Contact with my children.

I would be happy for you to report on my case as and when it is heard.  However, I suspect that I will be denied a hearing in the UK Courts at which time I shall proceed straight to Europe.  European Court of Human Rights precedents state I can do so if there is no prospect of success in the UK)

Irrespective, if you have evidence of how deep the corruption goes I would be happy to add such evidence to my case as supporting evidence.

Regards
John Charville




Date : Thu, 07 Feb 2002 To: Castrodon@***

Hello Friend,

You're not alone.  Complaints of systematic deceit, fraud, theft and corruption in English (& Scottish) legal and judicial network are met with cynical automatic denial from all English regulatory bodies (including the public-paid 'public-interest' BBC)

Therefore the regulators link01 (and the BBC link02) are corrupt

Check hidden / `secret societies' / BBC.

We're forced to conclude any honest folk may eventually be branded "terrorists" under bent English system

regards
ed@percs



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newUK-Citizens BENT LAW - A REMEDY?


Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 06:17:19 ESTSubject: (no subject) From: Castrodon@***.com

Dear Editor

I have been robed

[`robbed' ? ed]

by one man and again by lawyers who refused to put to a court the stronger of my evidence

I am now well on the road for a second shaking down in a different case.  I was the suing party in each case

I have a full dossier but read my homepage on address:- profile.html

I have tried and tried but no-one wants to know.  I have been through Solicitors Complaints Bureau, Ombudsman, Law Society, Solicitors Indemnity Fund and the Citizens Advice Bureau who have now given up because there is no-where else to go.

I would welcome publicity and I can prove everything that I say.
Please help

Castrodon@aol.com




Thurs 31 Jan 2002 !9:00

NSA & MI5 (email monitors) probably know origin of that `order' below (if they didn't send it).
We won't even guess:- Could be from far left or right link01; secret societies or illuminati(us) link02; bent politicians link03; bent lawyers, magistrates, judges or police link04; bent media link05; perverts in high places link06; bent priests link07; bent medicos link08; bent bureaucrats link09; bent proselytizers link10; sick racists link11 & link12; sad pseudo scientists link13; or even anti-ET's(anti-alien) link14?

(humorous) suggestions - to ed@percs





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QUIT




Reader, d'you think we're going to obey that "order" ? (only an editorial "we" - `Perceptions' is a one-horse show - helped by you)
ed@percs





Thanks for ambiguous "approval" Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:15:26 +0000 To: Phoenix Toner WA <phoenixw@***>

Hi Phoenix, thanks for the rating.

Please don't let amount of stuff oppress you.  It's surely not to be taken in big chunks.

From this POV, range of site is double-edged sword.

Downside - efforts can seem scattered over lots of subjects.link01

Upside - it's amazing how things are inter-connected.link02  Almost anything looked at just for a break will turn out to provoke progress on apparently unrelated problems.

Take it easy - and thanks again.

ed@percs



try browsing the LUCKY-DIP



Subject : "site" Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:16:20 +0800
From: "Phoenix Toner WA" <phoenixw@***.au>


Great thought provoking site, so much, it's like plowing through "britannica".  I'm learning to use the site as a reference book, rather than a "novel"

GB

Perth, Western Australia




Subject: Query Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 XX:XX:XX +0000

Lo Pal - here's what you need, boiled down:-

`Perceptions' uses logic, verifiable fact & attributable reports.  Readers' questions and opinions keep us informed and anyone can send stuff anonymously and unattributably.

Guilty perps, some hidden in corrupt establishments, want to know if `Perceptions' has 'secret' sources.  Any reports from 'secret' sources must be non-attributable.

The "status quo" is not a [valid] option - it's corrupt and abusive, therefore power-seekers can only want either abuse or reform.  So it's self-evident: any non-reformer in authority is an abuser.

* note*

Abusers are limited to using smear and planted misinfo.  So all unattributable stuff has to be treated as misinformation

regards - watch your health

ed@percs

INFORMATION = all the stuff you can find.

EVIDENCE = attributable stuff




THURSDAY Jan 10 Jan 2002

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